About Defects affecting grades 0

[Gonzalo J Di Paolo]

Hello, I am contemplating buy-ing some key books at a somewhat affordable price... what is best as far as being better for grading? the one with the tape or the one with the rips? or neither?

 

[Taneleer Tivan]

Whichever one you like better.

[revat]

I think a more specific question might get a more specific answer.

 

[Gonzalo J Di Paolo]

11 hours ago, revat said:

I think a more specific question might get a more specific answer.

 

I was trying to determine which defect may be more or less influencing of the grading (I know both are) however one may be a lesser evil perhaps... thanks for the help and response anyway guys

 

 

[revat]

7 minutes ago, Gonzalo J Di Paolo said:

11 hours ago, revat said:

I think a more specific question might get a more specific answer.

 

I was trying to determine which defect may be more or less influencing of the grading (I know both are) however one may be a lesser evil perhaps... thanks for the help and response anyway guys

THere's a 'please grade my comic' subforum, you can post your comics there and ask for grades.

The reason i questioned your question is because you're asking which defect knocks the grade more but that assumes you're starting from the same point, and possibly the same price point to make a better decision for the money.  So even if tape lowered a grade by 1.5 in a 5.0 comic, it still might result better than tears in a 3.0 comic.  And it depends largely on the amount tears or tape as well.

 

[Krismusic]

not to rant on your post but recently I have been seeing a lot of new members coming in and trying to quantify a value to how much certain defects affect a comic. I am assuming many use this to say well a tape comic is a 1.0 down in grade and a tear is 0.5 so go with a tear or whatever example. 

One thing that I have learned the defect is also very subjective as to how much of a defect size, qty, etc.. and on the overall condition of the book as tape might not matter as much on a low grade book compared to a high grade or a tear on a 9.6 at the staples compared to a tear on a 3.0. 

what I would recommend is reading the Overstreet grading guide as he tries to quantify defects more but they are not the same as CGC standards but will give you the general idea of grading a book and how defects affect certain books at certain grade levels. 

[Gonzalo J Di Paolo]

thank you, I get it, I will certainly check it out. I mean no disrespect to the community though, I am a collector and a fan and just lately got into the good old silver age stuff... I appreciate all the advice

[Tony S]

CGC's stance on tape is that adding tape can never improve the grade. So the question becomes "why is the tape on the book? 

If the tape is sealing a tear, CGC will grade the book as though the tear is still there. If tape reattaches a cover or a piece of the book, CGC will grade the book as though the cover or piece is detached. If the tape doesn't "fix" something, then the tape itself is treated as defect and the grade is affected. 

Your question was which is better, tape or a tear.  If the tape on the first book is sealing a tear (and it probably is) to CGC when grading the book there is no difference. BOTH books have tears. 

Collectors generally dislike tape - and for good reason. Over time it will slowly damage the paper.  But personally the first book - the one with some tape - has much better eye appeal. Stronger color, little creasing and wear.  If they are about the same price I'd want the better looking book.  Even though it has a small amount of tape. 

Welcome to the boards. 

 

 

 

[Gaard]

Regardless of any grade the books may receive, I think the top one looks a lot nicer.

[Krismusic]

12 hours ago, Gonzalo J Di Paolo said:

thank you, I get it, I will certainly check it out. I mean no disrespect to the community though, I am a collector and a fan and just lately got into the good old silver age stuff... I appreciate all the advice

welcome to the boards... float around here there is a ton of information. 

 

[Gonzalo J Di Paolo]

thank you guys! much appreciated!

 

[theCapraAegagrus]

On 8/28/2019 at 5:16 AM, Gaard said:

Regardless of any grade the books may receive, I think the top one looks a lot nicer.

100%.

[Krismusic]

why pick get them both …  

[The Lions Den]

This book is so common, you should be able to find a copy with just normal wear. Personally, I'd keep looking...