theCapraAegagrus Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Direct from their website (nothing about "hidden defects"): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCOComics Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, theCapraAegagrus said: Direct from their website (nothing about "hidden defects"): That's just... useless.. In any event, it's possible some damage occurred during the signing? mattn792, NP_Gresham and theCapraAegagrus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post William-James88 Posted August 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 hours ago, J-KComics said: Yes, I knew it was a roll of the dice.. sadly did not go the way we all want it to go Then it's impossible to know if CGC would have also done 6.0 if sent to them instead. You win some you lose some, I wouldn't blame either company for doing their job as professional graders. Saying "CBCS came back 1 grade lower" is not a fair statement as you did not simply send a CGC comic to be regraded by CBCS. This is more along the lines of a comic doing down a grade after it was regraded after a signing, and more handling, which is very common. For all we know, the same result would have happened at CGC. Randall Dowling, J-KComics, misterrmystery and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattn792 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 55 minutes ago, theCapraAegagrus said: Direct from their website (nothing about "hidden defects"): 49 minutes ago, KCOComics said: That's just... useless.. In fact, it sounds EXACTLY like a CVA sticker to me. theCapraAegagrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 A CVA sticker claims that the book is a superior copy for a grade. A check mark says don't be fooled by the books cover. There is a reason the book looks better than the grade. The exact same thing, right? Randall Dowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, William-James88 said: Then it's impossible to know if CGC would have also done 6.0 if sent to them instead. You win some you lose some, I wouldn't blame either company for doing their job as professional graders. Saying "CBCS came back 1 grade lower" is not a fair statement as you did not simply send a CGC comic to be regraded by CBCS. This is more along the lines of a comic doing down a grade after it was regraded after a signing, and more handling, which is very common. For all we know, the same result would have happened at CGC. Good point... J-KComics and William-James88 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattn792 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, shadroch said: A CVA sticker claims that the book is a superior copy for a grade. A check mark says don't be fooled by the books cover. There is a reason the book looks better than the grade. The exact same thing, right? A CVA sticker is applied once you've paid your $12.95...I mean, only after the book is reviewed through the case. Meaning the cover looks nice for the grade. They have no idea if its "superior" for the grade since the inside could be a mess. A check mark says the cover looks nice for the grade, but there might be some shirt going on inside the book. In either case, dear consumer, buy/look-up the notes if you'd like to know more. Same shirt, different display method. The Lions Den and theCapraAegagrus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 No, you are mistaken. One is hype, one is a warning. If you don't see the difference, I don't know what else to say. Xenosmilus, Randall Dowling and The Lions Den 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattn792 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Both are telling you the exact same thing. Both are hype. theCapraAegagrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterrmystery Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, mattn792 said: A CVA sticker is applied once you've paid your $12.95...I mean, only after the book is reviewed through the case. Meaning the cover looks nice for the grade. They have no idea if its "superior" for the grade since the inside could be a mess. A check mark says the cover looks nice for the grade, but there might be some shirt going on inside the book. In either case, dear consumer, buy/look-up the notes if you'd like to know more. Same shirt, different display method. A waste of money IMO. The cover is a small part of the book. I'd rather read the grader's notes than have a $12.95 sticker applied. Does it mean you'll get more when you sell? Who knows. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Edited August 20, 2020 by misterrmystery mattn792 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 CVA is done by a different company at an additional fee, while the other is a courtesy from the grading company. Exact same thing, no? Xenosmilus and Randall Dowling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood1892 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Drunken Android said: Why do you assume that CGC got it right when they graded it 7.0? Why does he assume he is gonna get sage advice from "unprofessional" graders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattn792 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, shadroch said: CVA is done by a different company at an additional fee, while the other is a courtesy from the grading company. Exact same thing, no? We're reaching for the politeness scale to find a difference? Fine, in that regard I'll grant you that the other guys' politeness is superior to Currently Verifying Anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William-James88 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 59 minutes ago, shadroch said: A CVA sticker claims that the book is a superior copy for a grade. It just says the cover is nice, but it's not a superior book. If it was superior than other books in that grade, it would be of a superior grade. thehumantorch, mattn792 and theCapraAegagrus 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 49 minutes ago, William-James88 said: It just says the cover is nice, but it's not a superior book. If it was superior than other books in that grade, it would be of a superior grade. My understanding is that a CVA sticker is supposed to mean the book is at the very top of the grades range. If everything under a 9.0 is given an 8.5, a CVA book would have gotten an 8.8 if such a grade existed. I think it is a bad joke. I recently noticed I had two CVA books, that were sold with no mention of the sticker. The check mark, I think, is useful. Randall Dowling, Timely and Xenosmilus 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattn792 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 "CVA's proprietary, tamper-evident holographic sticker provides assurance that the comic book you own has met our strict standards for outstanding eye appeal and superior structure within the numerical grade assigned by CGC. CVA's distinctive sticker allows collectors, dealers and investors, with any level of experience, to easily identify these premium-quality examples in any grade. A CVA endorsement adds value for anyone interested in the CGC graded comic book market, buyers and sellers alike." I think Butters once came up with a similar criteria... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-KComics Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 hours ago, shadroch said: No, you are mistaken. One is hype, one is a warning. If you don't see the difference, I don't know what else to say. The book Literally has nothing wrong with it on the inside.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-KComics Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 42 minutes ago, mattn792 said: "CVA's proprietary, tamper-evident holographic sticker provides assurance that the comic book you own has met our strict standards for outstanding eye appeal and superior structure within the numerical grade assigned by CGC. CVA's distinctive sticker allows collectors, dealers and investors, with any level of experience, to easily identify these premium-quality examples in any grade. A CVA endorsement adds value for anyone interested in the CGC graded comic book market, buyers and sellers alike." I think Butters once came up with a similar criteria... What is a CVA? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattn792 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, J-KComics said: What is a CVA? LOL A bad joke on the industry. You pay them 12 bucks or so, and they put the equivalent of a smiley face on your book to tell you it looks pretty. The Lions Den and Larryw7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Your book was signed. Who signed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
