PINWHEEL Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) Needs a press but what do you guys think? Edited April 26, 2022 by PINWHEEL Update title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebyort Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Throw it in your fireplace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silversurfer275 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 how is it counterfeit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINWHEEL Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 49 minutes ago, silversufer27 said: how is it counterfeit? I imagine there is a thread around here somewhere that somewhat gets into the details of this book but basically it has all the right stuff to be a first print (Dover address on inside front cover, Gobbledygook ad on the inside back cover. But the cover (maybe the entire book?) is counterfeit. The tell tale signs are the scratching across the back cover and the loss of the crosshatching in Shredder's arm on the front cover. They have long been know to exist but no one really knows the deal on where they came from or even how many are out there. The Lions Den and silversurfer275 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpoolica Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) 6.0 Edited November 20, 2020 by Deadpoolica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Counterfeit? NG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 6.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PINWHEEL Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 6 hours ago, theCapraAegagrus said: Counterfeit? NG. They are graded on the census unless the policy has changed. The Lions Den and theCapraAegagrus 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 hours ago, PINWHEEL said: They are graded on the census unless the policy has changed. I counted 15 counterfeit copies on the census, and I don't think the policy has changed. They'll just plaster the word "counterfeit" all over the label so there's no mistake about what it is... theCapraAegagrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolthammer1 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Wow, I had no idea they would grade counterfeits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Qalyar Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 On 11/23/2020 at 8:30 PM, Jolthammer1 said: Wow, I had no idea they would grade counterfeits! In general, probably not. But there are a handful of specific counterfeit books that are, for various reasons, considered desirable collectibles in and of themselves. Off the top of my head, that includes the TMNT counterfeit and the Cry for Dawn counterfeit. Perhaps others, I'm not sure. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 On 11/24/2020 at 11:57 PM, Qalyar said: In general, probably not. But there are a handful of specific counterfeit books that are, for various reasons, considered desirable collectibles in and of themselves. Off the top of my head, that includes the TMNT counterfeit and the Cry for Dawn counterfeit. Perhaps others, I'm not sure. Cerebus 1. The Lions Den and Qalyar 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Five Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 6.0 was my first thought too. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1950's war comics Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 worth a press if you submit FoggyNelson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Collector Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 On 11/25/2020 at 3:57 PM, Qalyar said: In general, probably not. But there are a handful of specific counterfeit books that are, for various reasons, considered desirable collectibles in and of themselves. Off the top of my head, that includes the TMNT counterfeit and the Cry for Dawn counterfeit. Perhaps others, I'm not sure. Is there a counterfeit of Gobbledygook 1 too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qalyar Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, The-Collector said: Is there a counterfeit of Gobbledygook 1 too? CGC only grades Gobbledygook under... weird conditions, as I understand. There certainly ARE counterfeit copies of those books, but there's not the same sort of reasonably well-produced, specifically identifiable counterfeit as plague TMNT, CFD, and Cerebus, especially not one that has its own cachet as a collectible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicginger1789 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 I assume this counterfeiting was done back around when the books came out? Or early 90's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINWHEEL Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, comicginger1789 said: I assume this counterfeiting was done back around when the books came out? Or early 90's? From my understanding these were done in the mid '80's when the first prints were hot. There are a couple different counterfeit copies from what I've read. A lot of them are 2nd and 3rd prints that have had the print info erased or whited out on the inside front cover, I wouldn't consider these counterfeit as they are just altered copies of the reprints. This one is what appears to be harder to find and actual counterfeit. It has the Dover address on the inside front cover and the Gobbledygook ad on the inside back cover. The cover colors are darker and you can see the lack of crosshatching in Shredders arm on the front cover. It's off for a press and grading so we shall see when it comes back in about 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
