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[Flamesfan1982]

What do you think this can get with a press and clean?

Edited December 1, 2020 by Flamesfan1982

[WPPJames]

First off, if you own this book, congratulations! I hate going first because I'm not that good of grader. As is maybe a 5.0? C&P improvement? I didn't zoom into the photos, but I really only noticed the front cover, bottom right that might benefit from a press. Cleaning mainly removes dirt/grime (fingerprints), right? Front cover looks to be mostly stains that I don't think a cleaning would help. Back cover might get some improvement. Increase with a C&P. Maybe a .5 improvement? But with a book this expensive I think the only mistake with a C&P is not getting it done.

[Glassman10]

I'm up in the 7.5 possible 8.0 range particularly given the age of the book. No checks on the spine at all with reasonable corners.  Great color and sheen. The decay on the far right of the cover brings it down substantially.  I can only surmise it was stored with out a backing board for a long time. If the right hand cover was better, it would be an 8-0-8.5 ( but it isn't) 

[comicdonna]

5.0

[nebyort]

5.5 

[Math Teacher]

6.5

[mysterymachine]

5.0 maybe 5.5

[Haljordanfan]

Maybe I’m missing something, but that seems like a solid 7.0-7.5 all day long. 

[Galen130]

I see some oxidation on the staples.  Is there any rust migration inside the pages in those areas?

[Pantodude]

7.5-8.0 based on eyeballing other early SA books in that range with similarly nice spine, edges and corners (except top left front, which appears to be missing a piece), and allowable printer-related issues.   Assuming you press though, to address that creasing/dimpling lower right front cover.  Nice book!   

Edited December 1, 2020 by Pantodude

[universal soldier]

I'm in the 5.5 camp here. Great book!

[Dark Knight]

7.0

[WPPJames]

I don't think I've ever seen such a discrepancy on grading here. I, and others, are in the 5.0-5.5 camp. Others 7.0-8.0. One 6.5 I think. Not a lot of middle ground. Would be great to see what it would get CGC slabbed at.

It's funny actually. I'm thinking no way it comes close to a 7.0. Others it's a 7.0 "all day long" and I'm sure they are thinking no way it's a 5.0-5.5.

Edited December 1, 2020 by WPPJames

[Flamesfan1982]

Having it pressed and cleaned, has not gotten to the presser yet. I'd like to hear more opinions and how you came to them. I thought starting this thread would put my mind at ease a bit. I let go of a monster in a trade for this, thought I'd gamble a bit.

[WPPJames]

6 minutes ago, Flamesfan1982 said:

Having it pressed and cleaned, has not gotten to the presser yet. I'd like to hear more opinions and how you came to them. I thought starting this thread would put my mind at ease a bit. I let go of a monster in a trade for this, thought I'd gamble a bit.

I'm no expert. I take a guess as to not be initially swayed and then look at examples on-line to see if I was close. If so, I will post a grade. Otherwise I usually don't post. Probably the best way to compare is with books already CGC graded. But it's sometimes difficult to get a really good look thru the slab. I will look at sites like https://www.superworldcomics.com/buying/grading-your-comic-books/ and others that have more examples. But who's to say they are right and CGC would have the same opinion.

[Waylander]

Nice book whatever the grade 

Solid high mid-grade X-Men 1, shame about the marvel chipping (I have the same issue on my copy) that unfortunately throws many graders. Regardless, a book to treasure. 

[Glassman10]

I don't participate in grading anything I haven't owned and I compare so many to the AF15 I had which was a 5.0. I also had an ASM 16 graded at 9.2. So i look to those books and the hundreds I owned which were never slabbed but were really nice. So, When I look at this book, the major flaw is the deterioration occurring on the right hand  cover.  I suspect it was stored poorly. The paper seems to actually be disintegrating and I have that on a JIM 84 here This  however is really good. The spine is great, the color vibrant. no real color breaks at all. It's significantly nicer that the AF15 was and would be higher in my mind if not for the right hand side. CGC tends to be more forgiving of older books and this is an older book. 5.0, 5.5 makes little sense to me. I'm still up in the 7.0+ range.  I'll be interested in the CGC grade. 

[Randall Ries]

6.0 No way it's an 8.0. Really nice book, though. But the cover chipping is going to hose it.

[Motor City Rob]

5.0 to 5.5 

Always worth a clean and press, but doubt it will help the grade much.

The chipping and overall wear on the right side of the front cover is pretty significant. Lots of wear on the bottom edge as well.

I seem to grade more on the conservative side, but there's no way this is an 8.0.

[kimik]

Looking at the OPs past posts, did you do the trade for the CGC 5.5 X-Men 1 last year and this is the book you received?