What’s the word on the street about conventions this year ? 0

[Chicago Boy]

How are people feeling about summer or fall ? 

[pemart1966]

Common sense would tell me that there won't be any...again...

[Gotham Kid]

doubt any for 2021

Edited February 2, 2021 by Gotham Kid

[bpc3qh]

I think we'll some of the the fall shows, and most of the winter shows. I'm hoping to go to Baltimore in October, and C2E2 in December, since I anticipate being vaccinated by then.

[Cat-Man_America]

Conventional wisdom suggests no major indoor gatherings till at least Fall or early next year.  A lot depends on how rapidly folks get vaccinated and whether we can outrun variant strains.  Note: Never been a big fan of variant editions.

[Point Five]

Yeah, summer seems like a non-starter. Maybe fall.

 

[LDarkseid1]

I will be very surprised if we see them come back this summer, but oh do I miss them! Maybe later in the year though with more vaccinations being distributed over the next few months.

Edited February 3, 2021 by LDarkseid1

[Professor K]

I don't want to get in any debate about this because truth is I'm sick even thinking about it. But thats three people who have said that vaccinations are going to make it all better. Think it through. 7 billion people are going to get injected with a shot of chemicals made by Pfizer and Biontech and thats gonna bring back comic conventions? A sickness that 99% of the human population has not had and out of the 1% who has about 2% of them died. So 7 billion injections are going to make those numbers better and bring back comic shows? Is that realistic? The only way the restrictions are going to end is when enough people stop putting up with it, until then this is the way it will be vaccinations or not.

[Chaz G.]

I'm hopeful for a few Autumn Cons, especially NYCC, but realistically it'll probably be 2022 before we see them in full swing again.

[Professor K]

1 minute ago, Chazgee said:

I'm hopeful for a few Autumn Cons, especially NYCC, but realistically it'll probably be 2022 before we see them in full swing again.

Why then? What is going to change between now and then? Will the corona be irradicated in 2022? Corona is a thing and it will always exist now. Million years of human existence and it showed up last March somehow. Its not a plague that comes and goes throughout the years, its a sickness that like Aids is always going to exist.  So what is going to change between now and the end of time that is going to make the governments of the world say "ok take off your masks and resume everything like before"? I'm just trying to understand peoples logic because I've seen a lot of statements like yours. We've been forced to live like this for a year now. I'm trying to figure out what people think is going to change that will make things go back to how they were when we went to shows without worrying that the person next to us breathe is going to kill us.

 

 

[Chaz G.]

21 minutes ago, Professor Chaos said:

I don't want to get in any debate about this because truth is I'm sick even thinking about it. But thats three people who have said that vaccinations are going to make it all better. Think it through. 7 billion people are going to get injected with a shot of chemicals made by Pfizer and Biontech and thats gonna bring back comic conventions? A sickness that 99% of the human population has not had and out of the 1% who has about 2% of them died. So 7 billion injections are going to make those numbers better and bring back comic shows? Is that realistic? The only way the restrictions are going to end is when enough people stop putting up with it, until then this is the way it will be vaccinations or not.

1 minute ago, Professor Chaos said:

Why then? What is going to change between now and then? Will the corona be irradicated in 2022? Corona is a thing and it will always exist now. Million years of human existence and it showed up last March somehow. Its not a plague that comes and goes throughout the years, its a sickness that like Aids is always going to exist.  So what is going to change between now and the end of time that is going to make the governments of the world say "ok take off your masks and resume everything like before"? I'm just trying to understand peoples logic because I've seen a lot of statements like yours. We've been forced to live like this for a year now. I'm trying to figure out what people think is going to change that will make things go back to how they were when we went to shows without worrying that the person next to us breathe is going to kill us.

You certainly have a lot to say, for someone who doesn't want to get into a debate. 

I'll pass.

 

[Ryan.]

28 minutes ago, Professor Chaos said:

I don't want to get in any debate about this because truth is I'm sick even thinking about it. But thats three people who have said that vaccinations are going to make it all better. Think it through. 7 billion people are going to get injected with a shot of chemicals made by Pfizer and Biontech and thats gonna bring back comic conventions? A sickness that 99% of the human population has not had and out of the 1% who has about 2% of them died. So 7 billion injections are going to make those numbers better and bring back comic shows? Is that realistic? The only way the restrictions are going to end is when enough people stop putting up with it, until then this is the way it will be vaccinations or not.

I'm guessing you haven't watched a family member contract Covid and be dead within three weeks. 

[Professor K]

10 minutes ago, Chazgee said:

You certainly have a lot to say, for someone who doesn't want to get into a debate. 

I'll pass.

 

I don't want to debate. And I won't here. I just wanted an answer from anyone as to what is going to change to allow comic shows to come back in the summer or the fall or next year or whenever. Trying to understand how people , not just here but all over, come to those predictions. Thats all.

Edited February 2, 2021 by Professor Chaos

[jmg3637]

No idea where you get your numbers,  but the math is just wrong.  To date we here have had over 26 million confirmed cases.  With the US population near 350 million  that is well over 7%  have been infected.

 

Total vaccinated  just past the number infected.  which is a great statistic.

 

Deaths  are about 1.7%  of those infected.

 

80% of deaths are of those over  age 65

 

As someone who just turned 65  with diabetes  I feel very fortunate to have had the pfizzer  chemicals  injected in my arm last week, and look forward to the 2nd dose in 2 more weeks.

I had been attending 2 or 3 conventions per year,  but only attended one last January, and do not plan on attending another  this year.

 

[LDarkseid1]

1 hour ago, Professor Chaos said:

Why then? What is going to change between now and then? Will the corona be irradicated in 2022? Corona is a thing and it will always exist now. Million years of human existence and it showed up last March somehow. Its not a plague that comes and goes throughout the years, its a sickness that like Aids is always going to exist.  So what is going to change between now and the end of time that is going to make the governments of the world say "ok take off your masks and resume everything like before"? I'm just trying to understand peoples logic because I've seen a lot of statements like yours. We've been forced to live like this for a year now. I'm trying to figure out what people think is going to change that will make things go back to how they were when we went to shows without worrying that the person next to us breathe is going to kill us.

 

 

I just feel confident once the vaccine rolls out to a large enough amount of the population, hopefully over the next 2-3 months, society will begin to gain herd immunity and we’ll start to go back to some semblance of normality.

[bpc3qh]

2 hours ago, Professor Chaos said:

I don't want to get in any debate about this because truth is I'm sick even thinking about it. But thats three people who have said that vaccinations are going to make it all better. Think it through. 7 billion people are going to get injected with a shot of chemicals made by Pfizer and Biontech and thats gonna bring back comic conventions? A sickness that 99% of the human population has not had and out of the 1% who has about 2% of them died. So 7 billion injections are going to make those numbers better and bring back comic shows? Is that realistic? The only way the restrictions are going to end is when enough people stop putting up with it, until then this is the way it will be vaccinations or not.

What you're saying is factually inaccurate. The numbers you cite are not correct--they radically underestimate how many people in the U.S. contract this disease, and suffer serious harm from it. By contrast, the vaccines have shown to be very effective, making it possible for people to gather in large groups without having to worry about contracting this disease which has killed 400k Americans, and seriously harmed many more, and as someone who, if he contracts the disease, is at higher risk, that matters to me. Furthermore, you misrepresent what has been said in such a way as to demonstrate a paranoid mind more akin to conspiracy theories than reasoned analysis. "People stop putting up with it" is an insane thing to want, coming on the heels of an attempted violent coup--and to want it over restrictions designed to stem the tide of a dangerous pandemic is even worse.

[Mmehdy]

I think Wonder Con is dead in the water, also SDCC..the reason being even if you get the vaccine{ and by the way I got yesterday and have to wait 28 days for shot #2}it takes a month to the second shot and that still does not mean you cannot get the virus but mitigate its effects and I predict a supplemental shot down the road hitting any  varriants  , I just don't see this coming together until Nov of this year. When Disneyland opens in CALIF should give a clue as to when some small conventions should be able to make a comeback.I see a very strong year for Auction houses, E-bay and direct collector to dealer record  sales. But when are far from over this, kind of still in the beginning, the real test is gonna be when we start paying all that money which has and  gonna printed back and its inflationary effect on our economy

Edited February 3, 2021 by Mmehdy

[pemart1966]

1 hour ago, bpc3qh said:

What you're saying is factually inaccurate. The numbers you cite are not correct--they radically underestimate how many people in the U.S. contract this disease, and suffer serious harm from it. By contrast, the vaccines have shown to be very effective, making it possible for people to gather in large groups without having to worry about contracting this disease which has killed 400k Americans, and seriously harmed many more, and as someone who, if he contracts the disease, is at higher risk, that matters to me. Furthermore, you misrepresent what has been said in such a way as to demonstrate a paranoid mind more akin to conspiracy theories than reasoned analysis. "People stop putting up with it" is an insane thing to want, coming on the heels of an attempted violent coup--and to want it over restrictions designed to stem the tide of a dangerous pandemic is even worse.

From what's been said, yes, you can still get COVID after being vaccinated.  Vaccination is but one tool against the spread of the virus.  We still have to practice social distancing; mask wearing; and hand washing.

All of this is even more so critical as we now have two mutations (South Africa and UK) that appear to be more virulent than the original.  It's not fully understood yet how current vaccines will work against these new variants.

You can bet that if there are now two mutations that there will be more.  That's what viruses do.

 

Edited February 3, 2021 by pemart1966

[atomised]

Reading this thread before the Mods pick up on it

[Gotham Kid]

4 hours ago, pemart1966 said:

From what's been said, yes, you can still get COVID after being vaccinated.  Vaccination is but one tool against the spread of the virus.  We still have to practice social distancing; mask wearing; and hand washing.