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3 hours ago, delekkerste said:
23 hours ago, tth2 said:

And there's the crux of it.  While Gene may lament the weakness of BWS Conan interior panel pages, the fact is they're still going for 5-figures.going for 1/3rd the price of Liefeld X-Force and Larsen ASM pages
 

Outside Inside of this little bubble world that OA collectors are inhabiting, that's real money chump change. 

 

FTFY

True, but life is really too short to get worked up over the fact that some people with too much money have terrible taste.

Take a look inside ex-Newcastle United Andy Carroll and his fiancee's  pink-themed home - Chronicle Live

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3 hours ago, jbud73 said:

Seems like a long time since everyone last got together in SF 

Seems like a lifetime ago. :frown:

3 hours ago, jbud73 said:

I had dinner with Jeff a few times last year though

(thumbsu

3 hours ago, jbud73 said:

How are things across the Pacific treating you? 

Can't complain, there are worse places in the world to ride out the pandemic.  On the other hand, the problem with living in a city-state is that there's nowhere to go.

3 hours ago, jbud73 said:

Gene doesn't need any BWS interiors, he's got covers lol gotta leave something for the normal humans to buy.  Given how much the Buscema Interiors and Covers have risen, the BWS stuff seems almost free. 

Yes, I'm still green with envy after seeing some items he brought for show and tell the last time I was in NYC.

The thing about the BWS interiors that have come on the market in recent years is they tend to come from the early issues, when he was still in his quasi-Kirby phase, and they seem to have lots and lots of panels, with not a whole lot of action.  Are we all remembering BWS through rose-colored glasses, or was Roy Thomas' writing a bigger contributor to our enjoyment of the BWS run than we realize?

3 hours ago, jbud73 said:

so I'm back to buying HG Super Pressed DC Silver Age :baiting:

lol You can buy my old 9.4 B&B 28, now sitting in a 9.6 slab.  

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23 hours ago, stinkininkin said:

Not sure about value on this. I love Wood, but don't follow this market as closely as others.

My question is, is this the Alpha and Omega of Wood covers? He did so many great ones, but I feel like this might be THE one. Would this be an accurate assessment?

I think Weird Science 16 is its only rival, as that was the inspiration for the Mars Attack cards.

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20 minutes ago, adamstrange said:
23 hours ago, stinkininkin said:

Not sure about value on this. I love Wood, but don't follow this market as closely as others.

My question is, is this the Alpha and Omega of Wood covers? He did so many great ones, but I feel like this might be THE one. Would this be an accurate assessment?

I think Weird Science 16 is its only rival, as that was the inspiration for the Mars Attack cards.

Good point.

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On 4/4/2021 at 10:02 AM, sfilosa said:

With Heritage, if you have to pay the 20% seller fee and the Buyer has to pay the 20% fee, that’s a lot of money taken away from the consignor. Any they charge sales tax, unlike a private sale or trade. Even if you use art to to pay for your winnings, they still charge sales tax. Of course dealers are tax exempt so they have an advantage in that respect.

I'm just splitting hairs at this point but, functionally speaking, the seller pays both their own fees and the "buyer's" premium. Calling it that is really a misnomer on Heritage's part IMO.

*That is, unless the seller is a big enough fish that they can negotiate better terms.

Example: a page hammers at $1k. It becomes $1.2k with BP. Heritage doesn't start the seller's gross proceeds at the $1.2k- it starts at the $1k prior to their selling fee being deducted. As a seller, I've already lost two hundred bucks of the actual proceeds of the auction before any of my own fees are calculated. If my selling fee rate is 20%, I'm netting $800 off of a $1200 sale (excluding taxes and shipping). My "20% seller's fee" actually results in me receiving 2/3 of the proceeds from the auction.

 

 

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12 hours ago, tth2 said:

I hope the 5 bidders haven't been overly inconvenienced.

hey laugh if you want but there's about 3m of this signature that will be games.   Its not a rounding error anymore.

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36 minutes ago, Bronty said:
12 hours ago, tth2 said:

I hope the 5 bidders haven't been overly inconvenienced.

hey laugh if you want but there's about 3m of this signature that will be games.   Its not a rounding error anymore.

I know, but it's a hobby that's the equivalent of collecting file copies only.  None of these games ever made it into the wild.  It all seems to be unsold inventory.

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1 hour ago, tth2 said:

I know, but it's a hobby that's the equivalent of collecting file copies only.  None of these games ever made it into the wild.  It all seems to be unsold inventory.

They're not comic books Tim.   Anything that made it to the end consumer is beat the eff up and usually missing parts.   Nobody, and I mean nobody paid $50 x number of games just to let them sit around unopened.   If that makes it uninteresting for you, that's fine but no need to be dismissive about it if others enjoy it right? 

 

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It doesn't look like anyone has posted this so here you go (from HA):

Due to technical difficulties we are extending our April 4-5 Sunday & Monday Comics, Animation & Art Weekly Online Auction #122114 by a day for each session. With Comics taking place 6:00 PM CT tomorrow, Monday, April 5, and Comic Art, Animation Art and Memorabilia taking place 6:00 PM CT, Tuesday, April 6.

 

Also, it looks like the auction scheduled for Monday, April 5 has been bumped to April 6.

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30 minutes ago, vodou said:

I've mused privately, and now publicly, how long before games are broken out from comics? I think maybe a year?

Its already happened on the weeklies and been a successful transition, so I expect it will happen very shortly on the signatures too.   I wouldn't be surprised if the next signature is the last one that's bundled with comics.    Just a guess, but the winds are blowing strongly in that direction I think.    That being said I'm sure they have some things to work out internally in creating a new segment such as moving the historical data, etc.     

I expect it will be bundled with trading cards.     Your games, pokemon, MTG etc.    Same slightly younger crowd.

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Why split them? It grants exposure to new and old collectors of fields they might not see a lot of yet are still related. Maybe you generate cross interest and bids/sales you might not normally have had?

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23 minutes ago, zhamlau said:

Why split them? It grants exposure to new and old collectors of fields they might not see a lot of yet are still related. Maybe you generate cross interest and bids/sales you might not normally have had?

To make Tim happy, mostly.   :whatthe:

I suppose a minor additional consideration ;) would be making the categories more manageable and making comic people with no interest in games not have to sit through those auctions, and making games people with no interest in comics not have to sit through that.     

I agree that its fun and beneficial at the start but eventually it probably makes more sense to separate them, I should think.  

Besides, they've been planning it for a while, clearly.   The listings on the game stuff have, from day one, corresponded to a game category that didn't exist yet.  

Plus, you can see the slow movement in that direction.

Initially directly comingled with comics (same sessions, same catalog).

Then separate sessions with separate standalone catalogs.

Now separate weeklies.

Separate category and separate signatures seems like the next step.

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7 hours ago, Bronty said:
7 hours ago, zhamlau said:

Why split them? It grants exposure to new and old collectors of fields they might not see a lot of yet are still related. Maybe you generate cross interest and bids/sales you might not normally have had?

To make Tim happy, mostly.   :whatthe:

lol

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11 hours ago, cstojano said:

Anything comic related from 1999 sell for 408K like the Pokemon box set did? Serious question...

I can't imagine paying even five figures for almost anything comic related post 1985 or so.   I imagine many people are in the same boat.

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46 minutes ago, Bronty said:

I imagine many people are in the same boat.

Broadly yes, but on this board - five figures is a regular occurrence. Less than $10k gets you very little.

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18 minutes ago, vodou said:

Broadly yes, but on this board - five figures is a regular occurrence. Less than $10k gets you very little.

Post 1985 Michael?   There aren't many books post 85 worth 10k......

Point being, comics past a certain date... I'm not sure they were read widely enough to "matter"... so I wouldn't expect 1999 anything in comics to ever hit the kind of numbers discussed re pokemon above.

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12 hours ago, cstojano said:

Anything comic related from 1999 sell for 408K like the Pokemon box set did? Serious question...

 

18 minutes ago, Bronty said:

Post 1985 Michael?   There aren't many books post 85 worth 10k......

Point being, comics past a certain date... I'm not sure they were read widely enough to "matter"... so I wouldn't expect 1999 anything in comics to ever hit the kind of numbers discussed re pokemon above.

Ultimate Fallout #4 cover sold for $225k. That might be the peak piece from 1999+. Seems wild to me that a box of Pokemon cards sold for almost double. I often wonder if the WATA VG and Pokemon sales are a sign of shifting tastes or an indicator that OA still has room to grow. Or maybe a little of both.

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