Obadiah Oldbuck vs. Superman

[Point Five]

[Norrin_Radd]

Actually October, I have no desire for a Action #1. To be honest I would rather have a #2, #3 or #4 for that matter. Heck, even Detective #1 beats Action #1 out. But if one dropped into my hands, I would suppose I could sell it and get any one of those books.

 

Me neither. Detective #27 is worth a lot more to me than Action #1.

[action1kid]

Actually October, I have no desire for a Action #1. To be honest I would rather have a #2, #3 or #4 for that matter. Heck, even Detective #1 beats Action #1 out. But if one dropped into my hands, I would suppose I could sell it and get any one of those books.

 

Me neither. Detective #27 is worth a lot more to me than Action #1.

 

I respect that.......

[gifflefunk]

When most people talk about comic books they are actually talking about comic magazines. The magazine format has grown into the general term "comic book" over the last 60 years. Sure there were newspaper sections, tabloids, digests, and books, that contain a sequential series of panels that tell a story and are all "comic books" if the term is taken in a generic fashion. But the modern comic book (a.k.a. standard format comic book, a.k.a. American comic book) is the comic magazine.

 

The Bayeux Tapestry is a sequential series of illustrations that tells a story... but it doesn't make it a comic book either... Obadiah Oldbuck is a book. It is not a "comic book" under the modern definition of the word... it is no more a comic book than are my Calvin & Hobbs and Bloom County trade paperbacks.

 

If, however, the fringe elements of this hobby wish to press the issue I'm willing to revert to calling what I collect as comic magazines once again. The CCA stamp on code approved comics is from the Comics Magazine Association of America... they didn't approve BOOKS that contained comic material (i.e. Peanuts, Blondie, and other strip reprint books from the 1950s to today). They approved comic magazines, sold as periodicals on newsstands and not books sold in bookstores.

 

Obadiah Oldbuck is interesting a footnote, but the first monthly newsstand comic is far more significant to collectors of comic magazines than the books some dealers are trying to promote.

 

Overstreet borders on hypocrisy by including "Victorian" books but then doesn't follow that branch of the cartoon tree by listing the direct ancestors of the book format... where are the Dilbert books? Where are the Foxtrot books? Heck, where are the freak'n Marvel Illustrated Books put out in the late 70s and early 80s?? Oh... wait, those are books. I guess you need to be willing to suck on Bob's wang to get your junk listed in the OPG.... Big Little Books? WTF??

[adamstrange]

Hasn't Beerbohm discussed that Topfer was creating Oldbuck-like stories in Europe decades earlier?

 

By your own reasoning of "earliest" and "precedence", by what basis can you claim the special position for Oldbuck? How is it anything special or different than what came earlier?

 

While not the first superhero ( Hercules and Wylie's Gladiator were both earlier) or the first costumed hero (Zorro was earlier), Superman was the first costumed superhero and done in such a way as to spawn an entire host of imitators and cause an explosive growth in the publication of comic magazines.

 

Oldbuck is old and interesting but he has yet to yield the collector base that there is Superman.

[Forbush-Man]

original art has unlimited potential, and is a facinating segment of the comic world. Each piece is a one of a kind, and the demand is obviously high and growing. Original comic art --- the sky is the limit...but it's no Obadiah Oldbuck !

 

K.K.

 

 

Mod button hit.

[tb]

The US edition lost points on my scale of interest when I first

saw the layout of one of the earlier European (French?) editions.

The US version looks chopped up and nowhere near as attractive

as the European ones.

 

Anyway, it's refreshing to hear from someone with a different angle.

I've been following your eBay auctions and scoop articles with a lot of

interest, showcase-4. I will gladly agree that Oldbuck is more important

than Superman if you will show us some of your books.

[seank]

"Heck, even Detective #1 beats Action #1 out."

 

You might be alone there, my friend.

 

As a matter of personal preferance, I'll take a Detective #1 over an Action #1 any day.

[Aman619]

the oldest coins are the most valuable. The oldest stamps are the most valuable. the oldest baseball cards are the most valuable.

 

The time is coming soon when the oldest comic books will also be the most valuable...it is inevitable. All undervalued markets correct themselves at some point. Obadiah Oldbuck will surface as the Declaration of Independance of the US comic marketplace

 

 

arent you forgetting That old Obadiah is a French reprint? Whay would a reprint be th emost valuable anything?

[showcase4]

Thank you all for your input....responses were about what I expected. The most absurd 2 would have been "obadiah Oldbuck is not a comic book" and the $20,000 price for Oldbuck is a "shill". Obadiah is inquestionably a comic book, and the 2 sales for $20,000 each are real as they get, because I now have $40,000 less in the bank, and 2 additinoal Obadiah Oldbucks in my collection( 3 total ). This can be confirmed by doing a Google search with the prompt: $20,000 Obadiah Oldbuck.

 

As for the best responses, there were several of you that acknowledged that Oldbuck is very rare and very important, but it lacks the demand to warrant Action #1 like money......those of you are quite wise.

 

It is my belief and vision that over the next ? years, there will be a steady increase in collectors entering the Platinum/Victorian Age markets, and these early key issues that started it all will command big bucks and become highly sought after by large numbers of savy investors. When this happens, Obadiah will surface as one of the greatest comic books ever printed, as some of us already know to be the case.

Happy collecting

 

Showcase-4

www.VictorianAgeComics.com

[Comicdey]

Thank you all for your input....responses were about what I expected. The most absurd 2 would have been "obadiah Oldbuck is not a comic book" and the $20,000 price for Oldbuck is a "shill". Obadiah is inquestionably a comic book, and the 2 sales for $20,000 each are real as they get, because I now have $40,000 less in the bank, and 2 additinoal Obadiah Oldbucks in my collection( 3 total ). This can be confirmed by doing a Google search with the prompt: $20,000 Obadiah Oldbuck.

 

As for the best responses, there were several of you that acknowledged that Oldbuck is very rare and very important, but it lacks the demand to warrant Action #1 like money......those of you are quite wise.

 

It is my belief and vision that over the next ? years, there will be a steady increase in collectors entering the Platinum/Victorian Age markets, and these early key issues that started it all will command big bucks and become highly sought after by large numbers of savy investors. When this happens, Obadiah will surface as one of the greatest comic books ever printed, as some of us already know to be the case.

 

Happy collecting

 

Showcase-4

www.VictorianAgeComics.com

 

 

And you will have cornered the market. Good luck with that.

 

I always say enjoy the "comics" for what they are assuming they have no value, and you'll never lose sight of why you collect in the first place. I'm assuming it's a good read?

 

I hope you're right and that you weren't the last person in the pyramid.

[buttock]

Thank you all for your input....responses were about what I expected. The most absurd 2 would have been "obadiah Oldbuck is not a comic book" and the $20,000 price for Oldbuck is a "shill". Obadiah is inquestionably a comic book, and the 2 sales for $20,000 each are real as they get, because I now have $40,000 less in the bank, and 2 additinoal Obadiah Oldbucks in my collection( 3 total ). This can be confirmed by doing a Google search with the prompt: $20,000 Obadiah Oldbuck.

 

As for the best responses, there were several of you that acknowledged that Oldbuck is very rare and very important, but it lacks the demand to warrant Action #1 like money......those of you are quite wise.

 

It is my belief and vision that over the next ? years, there will be a steady increase in collectors entering the Platinum/Victorian Age markets, and these early key issues that started it all will command big bucks and become highly sought after by large numbers of savy investors. When this happens, Obadiah will surface as one of the greatest comic books ever printed, as some of us already know to be the case.

Happy collecting

 

Showcase-4

www.VictorianAgeComics.com

 

Since we're dictating who's wise and who isn't...

 

you're an insufficiently_thoughtful_person.

 

You have a massively inflated sense of self importance (your "vision", please. What are you a prophet?)

 

All you've proved is that there is 1 person stupid enough to pay that kind of money.

[Comicdey]

Thank you all for your input....responses were about what I expected. The most absurd 2 would have been "obadiah Oldbuck is not a comic book" and the $20,000 price for Oldbuck is a "shill". Obadiah is inquestionably a comic book, and the 2 sales for $20,000 each are real as they get, because I now have $40,000 less in the bank, and 2 additinoal Obadiah Oldbucks in my collection( 3 total ). This can be confirmed by doing a Google search with the prompt: $20,000 Obadiah Oldbuck.

 

As for the best responses, there were several of you that acknowledged that Oldbuck is very rare and very important, but it lacks the demand to warrant Action #1 like money......those of you are quite wise.

 

It is my belief and vision that over the next ? years, there will be a steady increase in collectors entering the Platinum/Victorian Age markets, and these early key issues that started it all will command big bucks and become highly sought after by large numbers of savy investors. When this happens, Obadiah will surface as one of the greatest comic books ever printed, as some of us already know to be the case.

Happy collecting

 

Showcase-4

www.VictorianAgeComics.com

 

Since we're dictating who's wise and who isn't...

 

you're an insufficiently_thoughtful_person.

 

You have a massively inflated sense of self importance (your "vision", please. What are you a prophet?)

 

All you've proved is that there is 1 person stupid enough to pay that kind of money.

 

 

 

OUCH, Political correctness be gone.

 

I'm just waiting for the next platinum age "comic" that takes the place over this one in terms of the "missing link" approach to collecting and importance.

[CentaurMan]

Thank you all for your input....responses were about what I expected. The most absurd 2 would have been "obadiah Oldbuck is not a comic book" and the $20,000 price for Oldbuck is a "shill". Obadiah is inquestionably a comic book, and the 2 sales for $20,000 each are real as they get, because I now have $40,000 less in the bank, and 2 additinoal Obadiah Oldbucks in my collection( 3 total ). This can be confirmed by doing a Google search with the prompt: $20,000 Obadiah Oldbuck.

 

As for the best responses, there were several of you that acknowledged that Oldbuck is very rare and very important, but it lacks the demand to warrant Action #1 like money......those of you are quite wise.

 

It is my belief and vision that over the next ? years, there will be a steady increase in collectors entering the Platinum/Victorian Age markets, and these early key issues that started it all will command big bucks and become highly sought after by large numbers of savy investors. When this happens, Obadiah will surface as one of the greatest comic books ever printed, as some of us already know to be the case.

Happy collecting

 

Showcase-4

www.VictorianAgeComics.com

 

Since we're dictating who's wise and who isn't...

 

you're an insufficiently_thoughtful_person.

 

You have a massively inflated sense of self importance (your "vision", please. What are you a prophet?)

 

All you've proved is that there is 1 person stupid enough to pay that kind of money.

 

P.S.: WELCOME TO THE BOARDS!

[Comicdey]

Thank you all for your input....responses were about what I expected. The most absurd 2 would have been "obadiah Oldbuck is not a comic book" and the $20,000 price for Oldbuck is a "shill". Obadiah is inquestionably a comic book, and the 2 sales for $20,000 each are real as they get, because I now have $40,000 less in the bank, and 2 additinoal Obadiah Oldbucks in my collection( 3 total ). This can be confirmed by doing a Google search with the prompt: $20,000 Obadiah Oldbuck.

 

As for the best responses, there were several of you that acknowledged that Oldbuck is very rare and very important, but it lacks the demand to warrant Action #1 like money......those of you are quite wise.

 

It is my belief and vision that over the next ? years, there will be a steady increase in collectors entering the Platinum/Victorian Age markets, and these early key issues that started it all will command big bucks and become highly sought after by large numbers of savy investors. When this happens, Obadiah will surface as one of the greatest comic books ever printed, as some of us already know to be the case.

Happy collecting

 

Showcase-4

www.VictorianAgeComics.com

 

Since we're dictating who's wise and who isn't...

 

you're an insufficiently_thoughtful_person.

 

You have a massively inflated sense of self importance (your "vision", please. What are you a prophet?)

 

All you've proved is that there is 1 person stupid enough to pay that kind of money.

 

P.S.: WELCOME TO THE BOARDS!

 

 

But he's right, Welcome to the Boards. Collect what you like and speculate on the rest.

 

Looks like we've got a specialist here in the Platinum Age. I've got at least one cool thing to sell .....

[showcase4]

I am an insufficiently_thoughtful_person and stupid, eh?

who you are is speaking so loudly, no one can hear what your saying.

You are living proof that there are no eduactional or social requirements to partcipating on the CGC Boards.

[buttock]

I am an insufficiently_thoughtful_person and stupid, eh?

who you are is speaking so loudly, no one can hear what your saying.

You are living proof that there are no eduactional or social requirements to partcipating on the CGC Boards.

 

Or spelling...

[agro23]

For the record, I am interested in getting a copy of OO one day and I do believe it is culturally important as a link in the evolution of comics. I dabble in Platinum and collect specific GA.

 

I've thought about getting a few Victorian books as they come up on Ebay but the prices are always too high and I keep getting outbid by the same people. Frankly, it's far more likely that I'll find Platinum and Victorian books when I go antiquing at non-guide prices than I will buy them from a dealer. Outside of us and a hand-waving select few, no one recognizes them as Comics.

 

Action #1 hands down is WAY more important. It launches modern comics as we know them leading to the $0.5 billion industry that it is today. Action 1 is the Gutenberg bible of comics whereas OO is the equivalent of an illuminated manuscript bible--rare, expensive and a curiosity but NOT responsible for launching the modern book as we know it. Action #1 IS comics. The grail. THE comic book that started it all.

 

We're not going to the theater on Friday to see Obadiah Returns either.

[comicdonna]

It is my belief and vision that over the next ? years, there will be a steady increase in collectors entering the Platinum/Victorian Age markets, and these early key issues that started it all will command big bucks and become highly sought after by large numbers of savy investors. When this happens, Obadiah will surface as one of the greatest comic books ever printed, as some of us already know to be the case.

[Comicdey]

It is my belief and vision that over the next ? years, there will be a steady increase in collectors entering the Platinum/Victorian Age markets, and these early key issues that started it all will command big bucks and become highly sought after by large numbers of savy investors. When this happens, Obadiah will surface as one of the greatest comic books ever printed, as some of us already know to be the case.

 

The real questions is...

 

who the hell is OO anyway, but an old guy farting around bothering people.

 

Sounds like he would fit right in here on the boards.

 

Please scan the story so I can read it.