Fantastic Four Collecting Thread!
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On 11/1/2020 at 7:37 PM, Joe Ankenbauer said:

I believe that this is one of the few, or perhaps only, cover(s) where Jack Kirby did pencils and inks. I checked with the Grand Comics Database, and Jack Kirby did provide pencils and inks for this cover. Could that have contributed to this issue?

That and the fact that on this cover Reed Richards looks more like a Kirby self-portrait. 

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Don’t get me wrong.  I think Kirby has drawn some very sexy women over the years.  There’s a lot of crime comics he did in the 50’s with cigarette smoking, gun-toting, bad girls that are awesome.  I wouldn’t mind buying copies one of these days.

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On 10/31/2020 at 11:08 AM, Sweet Lou 14 said:

I'm sorry, but respectfully, this is straight-up disinformation.  GPA on FF #14 in 6.0 is $375.  Depending on what someone bought the book for raw (couldn't have been too much), and as long as that person chose wisely among the CGC grading options, they are a mortal lock to make at least some profit.

How do you choose wisely among grading options?  Wait 7 months for your book?  Dont use CCS?  Tell me exactly how to save money on this.  I will pay 375  for this book right now if it has been pressed by CCS

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5 hours ago, Karl Liebl said:

How do you choose wisely among grading options?  Wait 7 months for your book?  Dont use CCS?  Tell me exactly how to save money on this.  I will pay 375  for this book right now if it has been pressed by CCS

The short answer is, yes I generally choose the cheapest available option and wait patiently.  It sucks, but for me at least it beats paying the premium for a faster turnaround.

Also there's an art to deciding whether or not to press, and even whether to grade at all -- and frankly I'm not even saying I'm good at it.  When I submitted my collection of over 1,500 books a couple of years ago, I got help from Bob Storms who went through all the books and helped me decide what to do with each.  He was far more conservative than I would have been (in other words, he recommended leaving more books raw and recommended pressing only on a small handful).

I recently decided to grade a bunch more X-Men books (1980s era) and I was both more aggressive (grading and pressing way more books) and more lazy (gave each book a quick look-over in the bag and board instead of opening each one up for close inspection).  Those books have not come back yet -- the wait times are obscene -- so I don't yet know how I'll do.  It's inevitable that I will lose money on some of these books, but hopefully only a few as I did only pay a couple of bucks each for them originally.  My hope is that slabbing the books will make them easier to sell off, and that in the aggregate I will do OK.

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9 hours ago, Sweet Lou 14 said:

The short answer is, yes I generally choose the cheapest available option and wait patiently.  It sucks, but for me at least it beats paying the premium for a faster turnaround.

Also there's an art to deciding whether or not to press, and even whether to grade at all -- and frankly I'm not even saying I'm good at it.  When I submitted my collection of over 1,500 books a couple of years ago, I got help from Bob Storms who went through all the books and helped me decide what to do with each.  He was far more conservative than I would have been (in other words, he recommended leaving more books raw and recommended pressing only on a small handful).

I recently decided to grade a bunch more X-Men books (1980s era) and I was both more aggressive (grading and pressing way more books) and more lazy (gave each book a quick look-over in the bag and board instead of opening each one up for close inspection).  Those books have not come back yet -- the wait times are obscene -- so I don't yet know how I'll do.  It's inevitable that I will lose money on some of these books, but hopefully only a few as I did only pay a couple of bucks each for them originally.  My hope is that slabbing the books will make them easier to sell off, and that in the aggregate I will do OK.

Glad I learned how to press (properly) 5 years ago, I got tired of the long CCS/CGC wait times and high prices. 

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