GM8 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) On 10/25/2017 at 11:01 AM, GM8 said: Speaking of #1 First prints for sale, here's a 9.6 auction that just began on Heritage (not mine): https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/alternative-underground/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-96-white-pages/a/7169-92242.s All I can say is. Wow. This 9.6 (again, not mine) is at $21, 510! ($18K + buyer's premium). I think the last 9.6 high was around $14K so this is a huge increase. Ends 11/18. Edited November 9, 2017 by GM8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szav Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 hour ago, GM8 said: All I can say is. Wow. This 9.6 (again, not mine) is at $21, 510! ($18K + buyer's premium). I think the last 9.6 high was around $14K so this is a huge increase. Ends 11/18. WOW... I just saw this and came here to post...never thought this would get anywhere near this high. Happy days for owners of this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmaker Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 oh there we go, i just posted in the tmnt 1 thread. the current auction is crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM8 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 6 hours ago, rainmaker said: oh there we go, i just posted in the tmnt 1 thread. the current auction is crazy. In the big scheme of things the higher grades have had a looooong arc of price increases, much more so than the lower grades. I get it, more people can afford the 6, 7 and 8's. You see the same thing with the ASM and AF15 demand. I have no idea what the equilibrium price is of the high grades but just sheer availability dictates these to be higher than current prices (again, comparatively). Anyone have GPA on the 9.6? I thought it was 12-14K before this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szav Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 5 hours ago, GM8 said: In the big scheme of things the higher grades have had a looooong arc of price increases, much more so than the lower grades. I get it, more people can afford the 6, 7 and 8's. You see the same thing with the ASM and AF15 demand. I have no idea what the equilibrium price is of the high grades but just sheer availability dictates these to be higher than current prices (again, comparatively). Anyone have GPA on the 9.6? I thought it was 12-14K before this. Last 9.6 on gpa was the Berk copy in June at $13,800...the jump on this doesn't really make sense, but then I still get dizzy seeing AF 15 3.0s close to 20k.. 7.0s at 100k etc. Will be more interesting to see how the next 2 or 3 copies go at auction, to see if this is an anomaly or if the bar has been raised. As rare as it is in this grade I'd think it'd be another year before we see that many come up for sale but this result could flush out a few copies. GPA shows A 9.4 recently went for $9,500 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM8 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 8 hours ago, szavisca said: Last 9.6 on gpa was the Berk copy in June at $13,800...the jump on this doesn't really make sense, but then I still get dizzy seeing AF 15 3.0s close to 20k.. 7.0s at 100k etc. Will be more interesting to see how the next 2 or 3 copies go at auction, to see if this is an anomaly or if the bar has been raised. As rare as it is in this grade I'd think it'd be another year before we see that many come up for sale but this result could flush out a few copies. GPA shows A 9.4 recently went for $9,500 too. Ok thanks. Who's Berk btw? CGC census says 46 in 9.6 total (25 in 9.8, and 70 in 9.4). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szav Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, GM8 said: Ok thanks. Who's Berk btw? CGC census says 46 in 9.6 total (25 in 9.8, and 70 in 9.4). Berk was a famous mega collector, famous enough that cgc added "from the collection of John Berk" to all the labels of his slabbed books. There did seem to be a bit of a premium paid for his stuff when it was all auctioned off on comicconnect a few months ago, so it was worth noting that someone might have paid a little higher on that particular TMNT #1 than they would normally would have. If you search the golden age forum you'll see the guy was a legend amongst those collectors. As far as those census numbers go probably only the 9.8 number is accurate. I'd imagine there's fewer actual 9.6s and 9.4s due to people pressing/resubbibg etc in hopes of getting a higher grade. GM8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM8 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 23 hours ago, rainmaker said: oh there we go, i just posted in the tmnt 1 thread. the current auction is crazy. On 11/9/2017 at 10:37 AM, szavisca said: WOW... I just saw this and came here to post...never thought this would get anywhere near this high. Happy days for owners of this one. Now at $26,290 (22K w/ buyer's premium). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szav Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, GM8 said: Now at $26,290 (22K w/ buyer's premium). Ok this has truly entered the realm of the absurd... why aren't these clowns just buying that 9.8?...I wonder if we'll find out after the fact that the winning bidder backs out or wasn't legit, etc. This just seems unreal (but boy I'm crossing my fingers that it is real...) Edited November 11, 2017 by szavisca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szav Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 9.0 going up for sale next week on HA next week, will be interesting to watch for sure... https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-vf-nm-90-white-pages/p/121747-79002.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmaker Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 And a few lower grade copies between clink and cconnect. I've imagined at some point this book was going to experience a major jump perhaps that's what's happening now. It's the perfect storm of mega key, limited availability and demand. The 9.6 looks nice but it's past the point of overpaying and hoping for a press and resub. being heritage I would imagine the bids are legit. szav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icculus308win Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 On 10/22/2017 at 9:55 PM, nriccijr said: Huge thanks for Turtle. for helping me out with this! Great book! Totally agree that cover and area screams SS - Perfect looking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icculus308win Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) Wtf is up with that 9.6 #1! Seriously, the two top bidders should be buying a 9.8!! Edited November 15, 2017 by Icculus308win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM8 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) On 11/11/2017 at 11:07 AM, szavisca said: Ok this has truly entered the realm of the absurd... why aren't these clowns just buying that 9.8?...I wonder if we'll find out after the fact that the winning bidder backs out or wasn't legit, etc. This just seems unreal (but boy I'm crossing my fingers that it is real...) The 9.6 on HA Just closed at the same $26,290. Very big day for TMNT #1 valuations. We'll see if price confirmation comes in other higher-grade copies when they are for sale. Edited November 17, 2017 by GM8 szav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szav Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, GM8 said: The 9.6 on HA Just closed at the same $26,290. Very big day for TMNT #1 valuations. We'll see if price confirmation comes in other higher-grade copies when they are for sale. 9.0 on heritage ends Sunday at 4800 now... 9.0 on cc ends in a month .... 7.0, 8.0, and 9.4 on CL ending in 2 weeks. Lotta action ... will be watching these with great interest, but it'll be the next 2 or 3 auctions of 9.6s or 9.8s that tell the real story, whenever they happen to come up at auction again. Can't wait to see what happens then... GM8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icculus308win Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 That is something! Wow that is a lot of cheddar for a 9.6 In Sept of 2009 I paid $11,500 for my (signed and remarked by both gents) blue label 9.6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onewhois Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Newly graded. Mexico La Mole program book !! and Artbook GM8 and Gump24601 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM8 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) Still $5400 with 3 days left with this 9.4 on comiclink. Someone's going to get a steal at this price (not mine!) http://www.comiclink.com/search_adv.asp?all=y&TITLE=teenage+mutant+ninja+turtles&TITLEOPT=ALL&ISSUE=1&Condition=&ConditionTo=&CensusRank=&SearchPageQuality=&Pedigree=&PRICEF=&PRICET=&DESCRIPTION=&DESCRIPTIONOPT=ALL&SearchRemarks=&SearchCGC=&EXCLUDE=&CATEGORIES=-1&WCATEGORIES=-1&SORT=NEW&_where_forsale=y&_where_auctions=y&x=47&y=18&where_auctions=y Edited November 26, 2017 by GM8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szav Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 On 11/26/2017 at 6:08 AM, GM8 said: Still $5400 with 3 days left with this 9.4 on comiclink. Someone's going to get a steal at this price (not mine!) http://www.comiclink.com/search_adv.asp?all=y&TITLE=teenage+mutant+ninja+turtles&TITLEOPT=ALL&ISSUE=1&Condition=&ConditionTo=&CensusRank=&SearchPageQuality=&Pedigree=&PRICEF=&PRICET=&DESCRIPTION=&DESCRIPTIONOPT=ALL&SearchRemarks=&SearchCGC=&EXCLUDE=&CATEGORIES=-1&WCATEGORIES=-1&SORT=NEW&_where_forsale=y&_where_auctions=y&x=47&y=18&where_auctions=y Looks like yesterday someone put in a 10k offer on the 9.4 available as a BIN on HA. Probably won't know for a few days if that sale actually goes through but I presume the CL one goes over 10k easy now... we'll find out tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM8 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, szavisca said: Looks like yesterday someone put in a 10k offer on the 9.4 available as a BIN on HA. Probably won't know for a few days if that sale actually goes through but I presume the CL one goes over 10k easy now... we'll find out tomorrow. You're right. Well this is certainly a trend now. We'll see if the CL one catches up. I know HA gets extra from both sides but is it your experience that HA always commands the highest prices? And I just noticed that both the HA and CL 9.4's have OW/W pages which usually command around 20% less than White pages. https://comics.ha.com/itm/modern-age-1980-present-/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1-first-printing-mirage-studios-1984-cgc-nm-94-off-white-to-white-pages/a/7039-91197.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515 Edited November 29, 2017 by GM8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...