Did Tim Holt #30 inspire the Zodiac Killer?
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This is kind of interesting if you're into comics and "true crime"

 

http://zodiackiller.fr.yuku.com/topic/7089/Found-it-By-Fire-By-Gun-By-Knife-By-Rope?page=1#.U4podCjt020

 

One of the Zodiac Killer's cards to the San Francisco newspaper had the words "by gun" ... "by knife" ... "by fire" ... "by rope" -- meaning, he was murdering people by these methods.

 

These exact same words are found on the "death wheel" cover of Tim Holt Comics #30 (1952).

 

Zodiac also painted a red mask on the skeleton of his card, and the character on the cover is the Red Mask.

 

Coincidence? It would certainly be bizarre if a 1952 western comic book in any way inspired a serial killer in 1968-70. But the Zodiac Killer was not your average person.

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The card

 

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The book in question

 

Timholt1.png

 

 

What makes it yet even more interesting is The Zodiac Killer was masked as Tim Holt was on this cover. hm

Edited by ComicConnoisseur

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One man believes his father was the killer and that the comic is actually further evidence to that. I have no idea of the reliability of this author or the online community that seems to be trying to determine the identity of Zodiac.

 

http://stevehodel.com/2014/05/new-zodiac-halloween-card-link-examines-zero-degrees-separation-george-hodel/

 

Link to book excerpt

http://stevehodel.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/BDA-II-by-rope-by-gun-by-knife-by-fire.pdf

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That's my book and my scans :acclaim:

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One man believes his father was the killer and that the comic is actually further evidence to that. I have no idea of the reliability of this author or the online community that seems to be trying to determine the identity of Zodiac.

 

http://stevehodel.com/2014/05/new-zodiac-halloween-card-link-examines-zero-degrees-separation-george-hodel/

 

Link to book excerpt

http://stevehodel.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/BDA-II-by-rope-by-gun-by-knife-by-fire.pdf

 

Hodel makes a good case for his father being the Black Dahlia murderer ( though certainly not air tight), but seems to be reaching when he tries to do so with the Zodiac Killer.

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Yep saw it too at the last episode. I'm pretty sure the comic influenced him making his death cards exactly to the tee. Can't wait to see who their #1 suspect is between Sullivan or Kane...

Or could be someone else not mentioned.

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What of someone out there has the very same copy the Zodiac killer had back then and then had it slabbed by CGC. Will they label it as being the Zodiac killer copy? Wonder what something like that would sell for.

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This comic was shown on the History channel's Search for Zodiac a few weeks ago. I was wondering exactly what issue it was. Turns out I have a copy!

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On 08/12/2017 at 3:14 PM, Dark Knight said:

Yep saw it too at the last episode. I'm pretty sure the comic influenced him making his death cards exactly to the tee. Can't wait to see who their #1 suspect is between Sullivan or Kane...

Or could be someone else not mentioned.

And it ends with no resolution! :cry:

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7 hours ago, piper said:

And it ends with no resolution! :cry:

Of course they're going to save it for season 2 or even beyond :pullhair:. I wanna know already..

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Happy that I finally scored a killer copy of this future classic for pretty cheap... pretty awesome cover and book on its own even without the Zodiac connection.  This copy came from a dealer in California too...maybe I should dust it for prints...

 

TimHolt30VG.jpg

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45 minutes ago, szavisca said:

Happy that I finally scored a killer copy of this future classic for pretty cheap... pretty awesome cover and book on its own even without the Zodiac connection.  This copy came from a dealer in California too...maybe I should dust it for prints...

 

TimHolt30VG.jpg

lol

Welcome to the Club:applause:

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Thanks a lot for this thread.  Book is high on my wants and now the price has just tripled :nyah:

Of course finding is the trick and the fun.

It is cool book and interesting story to the Zodiac killer.

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Looks like its no longer under the radar...4.0ish smelly copy went on ebay for $355...without the seller even mentioning the zodiac connection.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-TIM-HOLT-30-GOLDEN-AGE-WESTERN-GCD-VERIFIED-COMPLETE-36-PAGES-GHOST-RIDER-/382834746767?_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l44720&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true

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