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GA With Less Than Ten Copies in the CGC Census
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19 hours ago, Hudson said:

This is probably "cheating", but there are ZERO of these on the census.  I have been told that CGC will not grade them (and I believe there are only 4 in existence).  Took me a long time to find this one and actually have a "boardie" to thank for telling me when it came up to auction (knowing I was looking for it).  One of the reasons I love the boards; great people looking to help each other and asking nothing in return.

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I've seen a colored version of this, but never a B&W version.  Is this a misprint?  Is the yellow hand-colored?  Why won't CGC grade it?

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19 hours ago, Hudson said:

This is probably "cheating", but there are ZERO of these on the census.  I have been told that CGC will not grade them (and I believe there are only 4 in existence).  Took me a long time to find this one and actually have a "boardie" to thank for telling me when it came up to auction (knowing I was looking for it).  One of the reasons I love the boards; great people looking to help each other and asking nothing in return.

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Is this the preliminary version?  I think I've seen one slabbed by the other guys. (Or is this one that copy?)

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1 hour ago, Yorick said:

I've seen a colored version of this, but never a B&W version.  Is this a misprint?  Is the yellow hand-colored?  Why won't CGC grade it?

Yes, there were two color versions.  One in 1950 and another in 1958 (seen below).

The B&W was more likely an "ashcan" type version that came out before the 1950 color version.

The yellow unfortunately is the result of someone trying to color in their B&W copy themselves.  lol 

I have been told CGC will not grade B&W, because they are too easy to counterfeit.  I don't know if that is true, however, that is what I was told.

 

 

 

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14 hours ago, Hudson said:

Yes, there were two color versions.  One in 1950 and another in 1958 (seen below).

The B&W was more likely an "ashcan" type version that came out before the 1950 color version.

The yellow unfortunately is the result of someone trying to color in their B&W copy themselves.  lol 

I have been told CGC will not grade B&W, because they are too easy to counterfeit.  I don't know if that is true, however, that is what I was told.

 

 

 

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I believe that is their policy.  Wasn't always true.  I have a copy of Boy Explorers 2 (b&w, small size) that they graded.  But I also have a raw copy that they will no longer grade. I don't know whether there was a particular incident of attempted counterfeiting that led to the policy or whether they just decided that they lacked the ability to detect forgeries. 

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On 4/18/2018 at 6:01 PM, circumstances said:

I so rarely see anything I really really want (which means I very rarely get anything new), but I just located and purchased a book I've wanted for a long time.

Hopefully I'll get it by May 1st so I can post it here to commemorate the one year anniversary of when I started this thread.

Welp, shipping delayed.

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1 hour ago, First Upgrade said:

4 Most, Vol. 4 No. 3

Highest graded...2 copies on the census...

This one was just graded. Unfortunately, it has been mis-labeled...

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CGC is usually fast in reslabbing these "mechanical errors" -- weird name for label typos. 

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