PGM Uncanny X-Men 266 0

[SteppinRazor]

PGM Uncanny X-Men 266

Hi all.  Perusing my copy of UXM 266, and I flip it over to look at the back and, sonofamotherlessgoat, there's a crease right at the very corner.

Thoughts?

[Payal Yusaf]

Without the crease, I'd grade it a 9.4 because of the small spine stresses and the worn corners. However, that bend should bring it down to a 9.0-9.2.

[SteppinRazor]

Thanks.  Think a press will help/be worthwhile?

[ADAMANTIUM]

22 minutes ago, SteppinRazor said:

Thanks.  Think a press will help/be worthwhile?

If the crease doesn't break color, and on white it's hard to tell

I had one recently with 1or2 itty bitty spine ticks and a frayed corner 

and I got a 9.2  

I'd say you got a shot at 9.0 or 9.2

Also looks like you got a pulled bottom staple

The only thing that I can say is it looks to good to get an 8.5....

I would also say it might not be worth enough of a grade bump to press....

[SteppinRazor]

I can't tell if it breaks color either, but it's definitely a crease.  It was folded over and stored like that for years.  If a press can't get rid of it or the spine ticks, I think you're right that it wouldn't be worth it.  Also, the corner on the cover seem good to me, but they don't line up with the pages, which I think give the non-spine side a rounder look in the photos.

Edited June 1, 2017 by SteppinRazor

[ADAMANTIUM]

A press essentially flattens but a "crease" would mean it "broke color" meaning the color is frayed where the page and color essentially tore but didn't tear. If that makes sense to you. A press can give a slight appearance that all is well, but the crease seperates the color and a press won't flatten it back together as if nothing has been separated. It basically smushes it back together and in a crease there are so many fractured paritcles smushing isn't necessarily going "to put it back together" just flatten. sigh. that's the best way that I know how to explain it. idk.

AND I don't know how much a pressed crease can count towards a a grade bump, other than it would lay flat....

9 minutes ago, SteppinRazor said:

I can't tell if it breaks color either, but it's definitely a crease.  It was folded over and stored like that for years.  If a press can't get rid of it or the spine ticks, I think you're right that it wouldn't be worth it.

 

Edited June 1, 2017 by ADAMANTIUM

[ADAMANTIUM]

Imagine a wadded up peice of paper, press wont make it crisp again, just flat with flat ripples

[SteppinRazor]

gotcha.

[ADAMANTIUM]

10 minutes ago, SteppinRazor said:

gotcha.

 I didn't know how much you understood it  

There are "bends" that aren't "creases" that can be flattened/pressed/ironed back together again, as long as it didn't break color sigh I'm talkin' yer ear off.

but anyway for this book: the corner, that has the bend, has a frayed tip. You can see it in the picks; also that is the only bend and I'm sure you've already decided, but it wouldn't be worth the "cost" to press, not that a press wouldn't help that small "bend" per se a little etc; with the fray and it's a small bend, not worth the "cost"..... for the grade bump  

I'm tired been a long day  thanks for listening  

[SteppinRazor]

2 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

 I didn't know how much you understood it  

There are "bends" that aren't "creases" that can be flattened/pressed/ironed back together again, as long as it didn't break color sigh I'm talkin' yer ear off.

but anyway for this book: the corner, that has the bend, has a frayed tip. You can see it in the picks; also that is the only bend and I'm sure you've already decided, but it wouldn't be worth the "cost" to press, not that a press wouldn't help that small "bend" per se a little etc; with the fray and it's a small bend, not worth the "cost"..... for the grade bump  

I'm tired been a long day  thanks for listening  

We're on the same page I think.  I'll probably just keep it raw since pressing doesn't make sense and slabbing without pressing doesn't make sense either.  Thanks

[Payal Yusaf]

That press would definitely improve the grade. Firstly, even if the bend did break color, it would be a white color break and since it's on white anyway, it would look like it was never even bent. This book is a 9.4 with a press, easily. I'd say press and grade it, but on the lowest tier. Otherwise it would be too expensive for what you'd sell it for.

[ADAMANTIUM]

@SteppinRazor

I was so tired last night, I agree it definitely is not 8.5 it's got to be 9.2 with press 9.4

[ADAMANTIUM]

check out joeypost, just pm him, he can do a quality press for cheaper than CCS that CGC works with because I think they charge something like $40 and joeypost charges like $10-$15 and does a great job...

Edited June 1, 2017 by ADAMANTIUM

[poppy73]

I say 8.5 as it is. 9.0 after a press. Enjoy the book. It's a great issue. 

[Terrapin]

Is that a small color breaking crease on the bottom right fc or is it just a real white line from the cover art?

[ADAMANTIUM]

1 hour ago, Terrapin said:

Is that a small color breaking crease on the bottom right fc or is it just a real white line from the cover art?

It looks like part of the plant...

[poppy73]

Great book. I'd keep the book raw. Pressing it will only result in a minor grade bump in my humble opinion. I'd say 8.5 as it is.

[SteppinRazor]

On 6/21/2017 at 4:32 PM, Terrapin said:

Is that a small color breaking crease on the bottom right fc or is it just a real white line from the cover art?

At the very bottom, it is part of the plant.

I ended up selling it raw to a boardie

[Michelangelo]

On 5/31/2017 at 10:35 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

If the crease doesn't break color, and on white it's hard to tell

I had one recently with 1or2 itty bitty spine ticks and a frayed corner 

and I got a 9.2  

I'd say you got a shot at 9.0 or 9.2

Also looks like you got a pulled bottom staple

The only thing that I can say is it looks to good to get an 8.5....

I would also say it might not be worth enough of a grade bump to press....

Don't worry about the staple - i have a UX 266 with a similar staple and it's a 9.8

maybe it's a common flaw for the issue and isn't counted against the grade.

as for your book, i'd say 9.0 - maybe 9.2 after a press if it doesn't break too much colour