This cover is horrible, and anyone who says otherwise is a liar! 5 5

[Martin Sinescu]

10 hours ago, letsgrumble said:

 

Al Milgrom. Nuff said.

 

Pfft. Man gets infinite respect for one of my all-time favorite covers....

[Logan510]

1 hour ago, Martin Sinescu said:

Pfft. Man gets infinite respect for one of my all-time favorite covers....

I dig that cover. Milgrom was a solid comic book creator who could write, pencil, ink and edit.

I hate to see him and other solid pros denigrated, but it is what it is.

[Cat]

Here's a two-fer. Both are Moderns, and they're both hideous in their own special way. 

This one just looks so amateurish, and I'm not a fan of Storm's new look and codename: Horseface.

 

Then there's this masterpiece... 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 18, 2018 by Mecha_Fantastic

[Ken Aldred]

6 hours ago, Logan510 said:

I dig that cover. Milgrom was a solid comic book creator who could write, pencil, ink and edit.

I hate to see him and other solid pros denigrated, but it is what it is.

That's one of his best covers, by far.

Edited January 18, 2018 by Ken Aldred

[Lucky Baru]

6 hours ago, Mecha_Fantastic said:

 

This one just looks so amateurish, and I'm not a fan of Storm's new look and codename: Horseface.

 

I'm not sure that cover can be topped. 

Edited January 18, 2018 by Lucky Baru

[Turtle]

Let me start off by saying that I'm a fan of Steranko.  I'm a fan of his art.  I'm a fan of the man himself.  He's terrific.

That said, Captain America 110 is the only cover of his I've seen that I haven't liked, mostly because of the Hulk.

Why is Hulk 25+ feet tall?  Why are each of his eyes looking in different directions?  Why is his right arm coming from his chest?  Is Hulk a hunchback?

This cover drives me nuts.  So many better examples of this artist's work. 

Edited January 18, 2018 by Turtle
typo

[Martin Sinescu]

12 hours ago, Turtle said:

Let me start off by saying that I'm a fan of Steranko.  I'm a fan of his art.  I'm a fan of the man himself.  He's terrific.

That said, Captain America 110 is the only cover of his I've seen that I haven't liked, mostly because of the Hulk.

Why is Hulk 25+ feet tall?  Why are each of his eyes looking in different directions?  Why is his right arm coming from his chest?  Is Hulk a hunchback?

This cover drives me nuts.  So many better examples of this artist's work. 

Wow, really? I have a copy of this issue 'cause I love the cover, it's so dynamic and striking. SA art to me is much more about sensationalism than proportionally-correct rendering (although Steranko was much better at it than Kirby) and this piece excels in that sense. 

[Ken Aldred]

I like the cover. Steranko draws a Hulk that looks very feral and threatening.

Edited January 19, 2018 by Ken Aldred

[Turtle]

9 hours ago, Martin Sinescu said:

Wow, really? I have a copy of this issue 'cause I love the cover, it's so dynamic and striking. SA art to me is much more about sensationalism than proportionally-correct rendering (although Steranko was much better at it than Kirby) and this piece excels in that sense. 

 

9 hours ago, Ken Aldred said:

I like the cover. Steranko draws a Hulk that looks very feral and threatening.

I can't disagree.  The cover is striking and dynamic...and the Hulk does look very threatening.  But it doesn't change the fact that he's much larger than he should be, his arm is popping out of his front, and he's got a deformed hump on his back.  Add in the fact that he's got 1 eye on Cap and 1 on Bucky and I just can't take this cover seriously.

@Martin Sinescu may have a point about the sensationalism that dominated the era.  It happened a lot with Fantastic Four covers* as shown below.  But this Cap book doesn't make Hulk as tall as a skyscraper looking down at the city streets.  If they were going for over-the-top sensational, they didn't exaggerate the size enough.  Instead, it just comes off as an unfamiliarity with the character; which I know isn't true.  Steranko's King Size Hulk cover is awesome!  The Cap cover just doesn't do it for me. 

*The Fantastic Four covers are only here as reference.  I don't think they're bad covers...I quite like them. 

[Martin Sinescu]

I generally like Byrne, but this one always makes me cringe....

[Chip Cataldo]

17 minutes ago, Martin Sinescu said:

I generally like Byrne, but this one always makes me cringe....

Why is that? It's a direct homage to Neal Adams' X-Men #56 cover. 

[Martin Sinescu]

4 minutes ago, Chip Cataldo said:

Why is that? It's a direct homage to Neal Adams' X-Men #56 cover. 

Right, except for that butterface.... ugh. If her expression weren't so goofy, it really would've been a really cool "After Adams" (when did artists start that tip of the cap anyway?). but I can't get over how horribly silly her face is. This is one of those covers that haunted me when I went to the LCS and almost single-handedly kept me away from X-Men for years, along with #185, which I remember seeing on the spinner rack in Kroger...

I'm not saying this cover is an entry as a horrible work, just saying this added to my overall view of X-Men as a book with unsettling, demented characters.

[Artboy99]

On ‎2018‎/‎01‎/‎17 at 10:47 AM, Marwood & I said:

It's probably shallow of me, but I've never been able to read a comic with bad art. Bad art kills great story for me. Great art elevates bad story. That's the way it has always been for me. Comics are a visual medium though, so maybe it makes some sense.

I have always detested McFarlane's art. I can see the skill and competence that others laud, but I just hate the end product. Ditto Byrne, although for different reasons. It's personal taste. My brain is hardwired to dislike it. My gut reaction is 'yuck'. I can't help it. It's similar with music, films etc.

So, Mr (ex) Spidey completist here, who has owned 8,000 Spidey books and pretty much had everything ever in his time, has never read a McFarlane run ASM book. Ditto Byrne. 

Being one of lifes 'lucky' types, which is why I probably gravitated to early Parker in the first place, if I entered a pub quiz on Spider-Man it would probably be full of McFarlane and Byrne run questions. So I'd score zero, and all my mates would laugh and say "Completist! You don't know jack sheet about Spider-Man". Except I don't go to pubs. And have no mates.

I'll get me coat. 

 

I am the same. No matter how great the story may be I can't get into it if the visual side of it isn't appealing to me.

[Artboy99]

On ‎2018‎/‎01‎/‎18 at 12:55 AM, Mecha_Fantastic said:

Here's a two-fer. Both are Moderns, and they're both hideous in their own special way. 

This one just looks so amateurish, and I'm not a fan of Storm's new look and codename: Horseface.

 

Then there's this masterpiece... 

 

 

 

 

these are actual published Marvel comics?????

Wow, just ...awful.

[Artboy99]

On ‎2018‎/‎01‎/‎18 at 8:15 AM, Turtle said:

Let me start off by saying that I'm a fan of Steranko.  I'm a fan of his art.  I'm a fan of the man himself.  He's terrific.

That said, Captain America 110 is the only cover of his I've seen that I haven't liked, mostly because of the Hulk.

Why is Hulk 25+ feet tall?  Why are each of his eyes looking in different directions?  Why is his right arm coming from his chest?  Is Hulk a hunchback?

This cover drives me nuts.  So many better examples of this artist's work. 

terrible proportions and anatomy.

But a very dynamic action packed cover nonetheless.

 

[SteppinRazor]

That XMen Gold has to be some homage to the little-kid-drawing-their-favorite-heroes drawings that they probably get in the mail all the time.

[Turtle]

5 minutes ago, SteppinRazor said:

That XMen Gold has to be some homage to the little-kid-drawing-their-favorite-heroes drawings that they probably get in the mail all the time.

That's what I'm thinking.  There's got to be a story behind that cover. 

[JazzMan]

On 1/17/2018 at 6:09 PM, HarrisonJohn said:

I'm always shocked at how bad this is;

Apparently they're trying to give us perspective, yet the only takeaway I get is that Wolverine has poor circulation on his left arm and leg resulting in serious swelling and that Spider-Man needs to layoff the Cheetos and go to the gym.

Edited January 19, 2018 by JazzMan

[JazzMan]

On 1/17/2018 at 11:55 PM, Mecha_Fantastic said:

Here's a two-fer. Both are Moderns, and they're both hideous in their own special way. 

This one just looks so amateurish, and I'm not a fan of Storm's new look and codename: Horseface.

 

Then there's this masterpiece... 

 

 

 

 

 

I thought you were clowning around with this cover and then I researched it.  How in the world did this actually make it to market?  

[F For Fake]

On 1/17/2018 at 8:55 PM, Von Cichlid said:

All of that, and I'll bet that Human Torch jacket has lots of pouches.

Ha, I just noticed that one, good eye. Why on earth would the Torch need a jacket. Is there a danger he might get chilly?