Gripped holes
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AJ0605   
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Hi, I have a NM- range book with pretty significant gripper holes on the front and back covers, and some interior pages. Does cgc deduct for these?image.thumb.jpeg.20f602da5c2b2275374c194b06b0c7f9.jpegimage.thumb.jpeg.09f06e2dac08b988194f6b0aac7f9169.jpegimage.thumb.jpeg.d6e070dd3ca725cb443067a3e2da2887.jpeg

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Bomber-Bob   
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Normally, I hear they don't deduct,  but these are pretty severe. I would suspect they would deduct, depending on the grade range. 

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James J Johnson   
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22 hours ago, Bomber-Bob said:

Normally, I hear they don't deduct,  but these are pretty severe. I would suspect they would deduct, depending on the grade range. 

I would say, "yes", a deduction. Like any other defect that actually compromised the integrity and structure of the book, and this certainly did damage it. Doesn't matter if the machinery or some kid with a pliers created those holes. They are there and they are most certainly defects regardless of how or why.

 

Just imagine. Ebay images being what they typically are, low-res and blurry, you win a CGC 9.6 and when the book arrives, it's flawless. Except for a series of holes across the bottom. You silently mouth "What the....?". I can't see that happening. I've got to believe that in any instance, the CGC would not slab this with the same mindset of factoring distributor ink, something detractive, but not that harmed the book.

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Bomber-Bob   
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1 minute ago, James J Johnson said:

I would say, "yes", a deduction. Like any other defect that actually compromised the integrity and structure of the book, and this certainly did damage it. Doesn't matter if the machinery or some kid with a pliers created those holes. They are there and they are most certainly defects regardless of how or why.

I 100% agree with you, a flaw is a flaw and should be deducted. Unfortunately CGC does not always view it that way and let many bindery issues slide. Things like Marvel chipping, printer's creases, and even these gripper holes get a pass, unless they are severe. It also games the 'system' as attempts are made to get CGC to believe some inflicted flaws are bindery. 

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BlowUpTheMoon   
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I am going to say CGC will not deduct for these gripper holes., even given the severity.     CGC doesn't deduct for gripper holes.

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