Ross Andru's Amazing Spider-Man Club 9 9

[Spider-Variant]

Here's a few more from Amazing Spider-Man 168, with one of my favorites, Will-O'-The-Wisp.  Great run of action between Spidey and Will O' as they fight in Times Square.  A couple of them I had posted before but the others are new.

I finally realized what the "kt" below the Father Duffy statue is after seeing it in that panel for years.  It's part of "tkts" or tickets.  This is where you can get tickets to non-sold out Broadway shows for big discounts.  My wife and I got tickets to "Momma Mia" here.

I like the way Ross even threw in the Automobile Club of America sign, which is below and to the left of the Coca Cola sign in my picture from 1974.

Note:  Look how many panels Ross rotated in this issue for affect.  Never realized he did that so often.

Edited November 3, 2020 by Spider-Variant

[Winterboy]

I'm loving this thread.

 

Big fan of Ross Andru's Spider Man.

 

Hey, Spider-Variant how about this one?

Superman vs Amazing Spider-Man.

[Spider-Variant]

11 hours ago, Winterboy said:

I'm loving this thread.

 

Big fan of Ross Andru's Spider Man.

 

Hey, Spider-Variant how about this one?

Superman vs Amazing Spider-Man.

Yes, that was on my list.  The Metropolitan Museum appeared in Issue 134 as well.  I try to find the same vantage points Ross used, but there may not be good photo of this one, lol.

When I finish ASM (which is nearly complete), I'll tackle Ross's work on Marvel Team-Up and SuperMan vs Amazing Spider-man.

Hey @Winterboy glad you like the thread.  How long you been collecting, got any cool stories, any cool Spider-Man stuff, any Ross Andru original art?  

Not a large following for Ross in this thread, but some good dudes posting.  

 

 

 

Edited November 7, 2020 by Spider-Variant

[Winterboy]

Thanks, Spider-Variant!

 

Andru is one of the best Spider-Man artists but  he is very underrated.

 

I'm an avid fan of classic Spider-Man, unfortunately I don't have any original art and I have just few back issues of Spectacular: Spider Man and Marvel Tales. It's very hard to bring this stuff to Brazil.

 

I collect Marvel Masteworks which is the closest I can get to the original material.

 

Best.

 

ps: I'm drawing a classic Spider-Man comic,just for fun.

[Spider-Variant]

1 hour ago, Winterboy said:

Thanks, Spider-Variant!

 

Andru is one of the best Spider-Man artists but  he is very underrated.

 

I'm an avid fan of classic Spider-Man, unfortunately I don't have any original art and I have just few back issues of Spectacular: Spider Man and Marvel Tales. It's very hard to bring this stuff to Brazil.

 

I collect Marvel Masteworks which is the closest I can get to the original material.

 

Best.

 

ps: I'm drawing a classic Spider-Man comic,just for fun.

Nice.  I sold all my collection but still have the Marvel Masterworks editions.

[Get Marwood & I]

1 hour ago, Winterboy said:

ps: I'm drawing a classic Spider-Man comic,just for fun.

Can we see it then? 

[Winterboy]

Of course!

 

I'm coloring the first pages, give me a few days and I'll post here.

Edited November 10, 2020 by Winterboy

[FoggyNelson]

Like the theater marque pictures , then an now👍👍😷😷❤️❤️❤️🎶🎶🎶

[Spider-Variant]

In celebration of Veteran's Day, I have posted all the Ross Andru real life references that I have found and documented with photographic comparisons over the last two years in this thread. My list has about 120 places in New York City (with a few from Paris, France) that Ross used to make it seem like Spider-Man inhabited NYC during his run on Amazing Spider-Man.  

Is this list complete?  I'm sure it's not, as there are buildings that Ross drew that are very unique and are most likely real.  There are some non-descript buildings that Ross most likely used in ASM as well.  Gerry Conway said Ross would come over to his apartment building and go up on the roof and draw buildings to use in ASM.

Is this list accurate?  I'd say about 95%.  The cement plant from ASM 145 is a best estimate guess for sure, but the rest are pretty solid.

What's next?  I'll probably look at some Marvel Team Up issues Ross drew and the classic Superman vs Amazing Spider-Man for some more examples.

Personal Favorites:  Any panels Ross drew where I can retrace his exact steps and view from his exact same vantage point are my favorites.  I'd have to say the panel in ASM 152 with the Ravenswood Generating station as viewed from the Roosevelt Island Bridge is my favorite.

Oddities:  Ross used post cards and an automobile brochure as a guide for his depiction of the JFK airport in issues 143 and 144.  Ross also drew the 71st Regiment Armory (34th Street Armory) in issue 174, which had been torn down a few years before. 

Open Items:  The Mindworm's house has never been photographically documented.  As I have posted, Marvel nearly got sued by the owner of a house that Ross used as his model of the Mindworm's home in Far Rockaway in Issue 138.  Kids kept showing up looking for the Mindworm.  I never found the real house.

Issue     Page      Panel    Real Life Reference

130         15           4              Pan Am Building

134         10           1              George Washington Bridge

134         17           4              Metropolitan Museum of Art

135         15           3              The Cloisters

136         2              1              St. Patrick’s Cathedral

136         11           1              Brooklyn Bridge

137         27           1              General Grant National Memorial

138         3              8              Manhattan Bridge

138         6              1              Marine Parkway Bridge

138         6              2              Beach Channel Drive Overpass

138         6              3              Mindworm's House

139         1              1              Queensborough Bridge

139         27           1              Chrysler Building

139         27           4              Washington Square Arch

141         2              5              Federal Hall

141         3              2              World Trade Towers

141         3              2              Whitehall Building Annex

141         3              3              Pier A, Battery Park

142         2              2              Pier A, Battery Park

142         2              6              Statue of Liberty

143         10           7              Pan Am World Port, JFK Airport

143         15           8              Arrivals Building, JFK Airport

143         16           1              Palais De Chaillot

143         16           1              Eifel Tower

143         27           2              Cathédrale Notre-Dame de Paris

143         27           3              Place De Vendome

143         27           4              Arc De Triomphe

143         27           5              Parc des Princes Football Stadium

144         15           2              Cathédrale Notre-Dame de Paris

144         30           1              Air Traffic Control Building, JFK Airport

144         30           2              Arrivals Building, JFK Airport

145         23           2              Gowanus Cement Processing Plant

146         7              1              Paramount Building

146         30           1              Chrysler Building

147         1              1              JFK Airport

147         26           8              Brooklyn Bridge

148         1              1              Brooklyn Bridge

148         18           4              Queensboro Bridge as seen from Sutton Place Park

149         17           1              Shea Stadium

GS 2       1              1              Guggenheim Museum

GS 2       17           2              Queensboro Bridge

GS 2       17           3              Ravenswood Generating Station/Vinegar Hill Power Station

GS 2       31           1              Empire State Building

GS 3       1              1              Empire State Building

151         1              1              Greenpoint Incinerator

152         15           4              41st Street Con Ed Power Plant

152         15           6              Queens-Midtown Tunnel Ventilation Building

152         16           1              Roosevelt Island Bridge

152         16           1              Ravenswood Generating Station

153         1              1              St. Patrick’s Cathedral

156         1              1              41st Street Con Ed Power Plant

156         1              1              United Nations Secretariat Building

156         1              1              United Nations General Assembly Building

156         1              1              Consulate General of the Arab Republic of Egypt in New York

156         1              1              Queensboro Bridge

157         1              1              Pier A, Battery Park

157         22           2              Bond Clothing, Times Square

157         26           5              Pan Am Building

157         30           4              Chrysler Building

158         14           1              Brookhaven National Laboratory

161         6              2              Tornado Roller Coaster, Coney Island

161         7              2              Nathan’s Hot Dogs, Coney Island

161         10           3              Parachute Jump, Coney Island

161         15           3              Wonder Wheel, Coney Island

161         26           1              Roosevelt Island Tramway

161         27           1              Queensboro Bridge

162         1              1              Roosevelt Island Tramway

162         1              1              Queensboro Bridge

162         7              3              Roosevelt Island Bridge

164         16           1              Williamsburg Bridge

164         16           3              Drydock 6, Brooklyn Navy Ship Yard

164         16           3              Building 293, Brooklyn Navy Ship Yard

164         31           6              Con-Ed Power Plant on Kent Avenue

165         14           1              New York Historical Society

165         14           2              American Museum of Natural History

165         14           4              Equestrian Statue of Theodore Roosevelt

165         14           5              The Beresford Apartment Building

165         15           1              Hayden Planetarium

166         31           1              St. Patrick’s Cathedral

166         31           5              Rockefeller Plaza

167         1              1              Madison Square Garden

167         30           1              30 Rockefeller Plaza

167         30           3              Prometheus Statue at the Rink at Rockefeller Center

168         1              1              Rink at Rockefeller Center

168         16           1              Pan Am and Chryler Buildings

168         17           1              Paramount Building

168         17           2              Winston Smokes Billboard, Times Square

168         22           2              Bond Clothing, Times Square

168         26           3              Father Duffy Statue, Times Square

168         26           4              Coca Cola Sign, Times Square

168         27           1              Canadian Club Billboard, Times Square

168         27           2              Sony Sign, Times Square

171         10           2              Golden Dragon Restaurant

171         10           2              Quon Luck Restaurant

171         10           3              The On Leong Tong Building

171         11           2              Montauk Point Lighthouse

172         22           1              Verrazzano-Narrows Bridge

174         1              1              71st Regiment Armory (34th Street Armory)

175         15           1              Queensboro Bridge

175         22           1              Statue of Liberty

176         7              3              NY City Hall

177         14           4              Brooklyn Bridge

177         22           2              World Trade Towers

177         22           4              Window on the World Restaurant

178         26           1              Chrysler Building

179         1              1              Hampshire House, Central Park

179         16           1              Radio City Music Hall

179         22           5              Radio City Music Hall Grand Foyer

180         10           1              Greenpoint Incinerator, Brooklyn, NYC

182         2              1              Manhattan Municipal Building

182         19           3              Queens-Midtown Tunnel Ventilation Building

182         19           3              United Nations Secretariat Building

182         19           3              United Nations General Assembly Building

182         21           1              Empire State Building

182         23           5              FDR Drive

182         27           1              Queensboro Bridge

182         28           1              Con Ed Stack

184         11           1              The On Leong Tong Building

185         7              3              Brooklyn Bridge Storage Areas

Edited November 11, 2020 by Spider-Variant

[mr_highgrade]

I used to work at The Guggenheim Museum from 81-86. I wonder why I never saw Spidey hanging out? 

[Spider-Variant]

37 minutes ago, mr_highgrade said:

I used to work at The Guggenheim Museum from 81-86. I wonder why I never saw Spidey hanging out? 

He was there but didn't stay long.  He was too busy kicking Shang Chi's butt over in the power station. 

[Spider-Variant]

Here's a flashback scene from Web of Spider-Man 123 (Steve Butler pencils/ Randy Emberlin inks) that harkens back to Ross's take on the Greenpoint Incinerator from ASM 151.  They even put the garbage truck in the same place.

[HighVoltage]

On 11/11/2020 at 9:22 AM, Spider-Variant said:

In celebration of Veteran's Day, I have posted all the Ross Andru real life references that I have found and documented with photographic comparisons over the last two years in this thread. My list has about 120 places in New York City (with a few from Paris, France) that Ross used to make it seem like Spider-Man inhabited NYC during his run on Amazing Spider-Man.  

Is this list complete?  I'm sure it's not, as there are buildings that Ross drew that are very unique and are most likely real.  There are some non-descript buildings that Ross most likely used in ASM as well.  Gerry Conway said Ross would come over to his apartment building and go up on the roof and draw buildings to use in ASM.

Is this list accurate?  I'd say about 95%.  The cement plant from ASM 145 is a best estimate guess for sure, but the rest are pretty solid.

What's next?  I'll probably look at some Marvel Team Up issues Ross drew and the classic Superman vs Amazing Spider-Man for some more examples.

Personal Favorites:  Any panels Ross drew where I can retrace his exact steps and view from his exact same vantage point are my favorites.  I'd have to say the panel in ASM 152 with the Ravenswood Generating station as viewed from the Roosevelt Island Bridge is my favorite.

Oddities:  Ross used post cards and an automobile brochure as a guide for his depiction of the JFK airport in issues 143 and 144.  Ross also drew the 71st Regiment Armory (34th Street Armory) in issue 174, which had been torn down a few years before. 

Open Items:  The Mindworm's house has never been photographically documented.  As I have posted, Marvel nearly got sued by the owner of a house that Ross used as his model of the Mindworm's home in Far Rockaway in Issue 138.  Kids kept showing up looking for the Mindworm.  I never found the real house.

Issue     Page      Panel    Real Life Reference

130         15           4              Pan Am Building

134         10           1              George Washington Bridge

134         17           4              Metropolitan Museum of Art

135         15           3              The Cloisters

136         2              1              St. Patrick’s Cathedral

136         11           1              Brooklyn Bridge

137         27           1              General Grant National Memorial

138         3              8              Manhattan Bridge

138         6              1              Marine Parkway Bridge

138         6              2              Beach Channel Drive Overpass

138         6              3              Mindworm's House

139         1              1              Queensborough Bridge

139         27           1              Chrysler Building

139         27           4              Washington Square Arch

141         2              5              Federal Hall

141         3              2              World Trade Towers

141         3              2              Whitehall Building Annex

141         3              3              Pier A, Battery Park

142         2              2              Pier A, Battery Park

142         2              6              Statue of Liberty

143         10           7              Pan Am World Port, JFK Airport

143         15           8              Arrivals Building, JFK Airport

143         16           1              Palais De Chaillot

143         16           1              Eifel Tower

143         27           2              Cathédrale Notre-Dame de Paris

143         27           3              Place De Vendome

143         27           4              Arc De Triomphe

143         27           5              Parc des Princes Football Stadium

144         15           2              Cathédrale Notre-Dame de Paris

144         30           1              Air Traffic Control Building, JFK Airport

144         30           2              Arrivals Building, JFK Airport

145         23           2              Gowanus Cement Processing Plant

146         7              1              Paramount Building

146         30           1              Chrysler Building

147         1              1              JFK Airport

147         26           8              Brooklyn Bridge

148         1              1              Brooklyn Bridge

148         18           4              Queensboro Bridge as seen from Sutton Place Park

149         17           1              Shea Stadium

GS 2       1              1              Guggenheim Museum

GS 2       17           2              Queensboro Bridge

GS 2       17           3              Ravenswood Generating Station/Vinegar Hill Power Station

GS 2       31           1              Empire State Building

GS 3       1              1              Empire State Building

151         1              1              Greenpoint Incinerator

152         15           4              41st Street Con Ed Power Plant

152         15           6              Queens-Midtown Tunnel Ventilation Building

152         16           1              Roosevelt Island Bridge

152         16           1              Ravenswood Generating Station

153         1              1              St. Patrick’s Cathedral

156         1              1              41st Street Con Ed Power Plant

156         1              1              United Nations Secretariat Building

156         1              1              United Nations General Assembly Building

156         1              1              Consulate General of the Arab Republic of Egypt in New York

156         1              1              Queensboro Bridge

157         1              1              Pier A, Battery Park

157         22           2              Bond Clothing, Times Square

157         26           5              Pan Am Building

157         30           4              Chrysler Building

158         14           1              Brookhaven National Laboratory

161         6              2              Tornado Roller Coaster, Coney Island

161         7              2              Nathan’s Hot Dogs, Coney Island

161         10           3              Parachute Jump, Coney Island

161         15           3              Wonder Wheel, Coney Island

161         26           1              Roosevelt Island Tramway

161         27           1              Queensboro Bridge

162         1              1              Roosevelt Island Tramway

162         1              1              Queensboro Bridge

162         7              3              Roosevelt Island Bridge

164         16           1              Williamsburg Bridge

164         16           3              Drydock 6, Brooklyn Navy Ship Yard

164         16           3              Building 293, Brooklyn Navy Ship Yard

164         31           6              Con-Ed Power Plant on Kent Avenue

165         14           1              New York Historical Society

165         14           2              American Museum of Natural History

165         14           4              Equestrian Statue of Theodore Roosevelt

165         14           5              The Beresford Apartment Building

165         15           1              Hayden Planetarium

166         31           1              St. Patrick’s Cathedral

166         31           5              Rockefeller Plaza

167         1              1              Madison Square Garden

167         30           1              30 Rockefeller Plaza

167         30           3              Prometheus Statue at the Rink at Rockefeller Center

168         1              1              Rink at Rockefeller Center

168         16           1              Pan Am and Chryler Buildings

168         17           1              Paramount Building

168         17           2              Winston Smokes Billboard, Times Square

168         22           2              Bond Clothing, Times Square

168         26           3              Father Duffy Statue, Times Square

168         26           4              Coca Cola Sign, Times Square

168         27           1              Canadian Club Billboard, Times Square

168         27           2              Sony Sign, Times Square

171         10           2              Golden Dragon Restaurant

171         10           2              Quon Luck Restaurant

171         10           3              The On Leong Tong Building

171         11           2              Montauk Point Lighthouse

172         22           1              Verrazzano-Narrows Bridge

174         1              1              71st Regiment Armory (34th Street Armory)

175         15           1              Queensboro Bridge

175         22           1              Statue of Liberty

176         7              3              NY City Hall

177         14           4              Brooklyn Bridge

177         22           2              World Trade Towers

177         22           4              Window on the World Restaurant

178         26           1              Chrysler Building

179         1              1              Hampshire House, Central Park

179         16           1              Radio City Music Hall

179         22           5              Radio City Music Hall Grand Foyer

180         10           1              Greenpoint Incinerator, Brooklyn, NYC

182         2              1              Manhattan Municipal Building

182         19           3              Queens-Midtown Tunnel Ventilation Building

182         19           3              United Nations Secretariat Building

182         19           3              United Nations General Assembly Building

182         21           1              Empire State Building

182         23           5              FDR Drive

182         27           1              Queensboro Bridge

182         28           1              Con Ed Stack

184         11           1              The On Leong Tong Building

185         7              3              Brooklyn Bridge Storage Areas

I just wanted to say thank you for doing this!
Tremendous research. Makes going back through the issues that much more fun.

Andru's Spidey was always a bit of a mix of Gil Kane and Romita to me... angular & wiry, but not so slender like Ditko's version.
But his city stuff did have a different feel to it.
Thanks for pointing it out and nailing it down.

[Spider-Variant]

2 hours ago, HighVoltage said:

I just wanted to say thank you for doing this!
Tremendous research. Makes going back through the issues that much more fun.

Andru's Spidey was always a bit of a mix of Gil Kane and Romita to me... angular & wiry, but not so slender like Ditko's version.
But his city stuff did have a different feel to it.
Thanks for pointing it out and nailing it down.

Thanks my friend.  I have to say finding these real life references gave me such a new perspective on the Spider-Man artist of my youth.  I will admit to getting a little bit of a rush when I could find the exact location Ross must have sat out to find his setting for the next issue of Amazing Spider-Man.  I think the ones below are my favorites (posted before in this thread), because I know exactly where Ross was standing to get his reference.

I don't think Ross was the best Spider-Man artist ever, but he will always be my favorite, driven by the love of collecting Spider-Man during my youth.

[ADAMANTIUM]

1 minute ago, Spider-Variant said:

Thanks my friend.  I have to say finding these real life references gave me such a new perspective on the Spider-Man artist of my youth.  I will admit to getting a little bit of a rush when I could find the exact location Ross must have sat out to find his setting for the next issue of Amazing Spider-Man.  I think the ones below are my favorites (posted before in this thread), because I know exactly where Ross was standing to get his reference.

I don't think Ross was the best Spider-Man artist ever, but he will always be my favorite, driven by the love of collecting Spider-Man during my youth.

I love how you transposed the elements of spidey into the real time

Thank you for your passion, you put it across to be shared and it is greatly appreciated!

[Spider-Variant]

35 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

I love how you transposed the elements of spidey into the real time

Thank you for your passion, you put it across to be shared and it is greatly appreciated!

I really appreciate everyone's kind words and support in this thread.   

[FoggyNelson]

Nice list for future reference , somebody should offer bus tours  like they did for location from the Sopranos show bus tour👍

[Spider-Variant]

Here's one I missed on my list from ASM 167.  Ross put the St. Patrick's Cathedral in four or five issues of Amazing.  Lot of detail to put into one panel.  

[ADAMANTIUM]

37 minutes ago, Spider-Variant said:

Here's one I missed on my list from ASM 167.  Ross put the St. Patrick's Cathedral in four or five issues of Amazing.  Lot of detail to put into one panel.  

Awesome! I like how he even got the Aerial shot too of the roof that jets out  he must have had a vantage point somehow  

[Spider-Variant]

18 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

Awesome! I like how he even got the Aerial shot too of the roof that jets out  he must have had a vantage point somehow  

Yes, I noticed that too.  I look now for postcard images to see if he used those in his work, after finding those in ASM 143 and 144.  I didn't look specifically for this one, but I haven't found anymore where Ross used postcards.