comic book tears at bottom of white ridge is this normal? How much does this effect the grade?
1 1

5 posts in this topic

200 posts

I just recieved a copy of spider-man #361 and the first 5 pages at the bottom are all cut up what the heck is this? Is this normal the seller said the book is NM NM-. How do these tears happen on 1st 5 pages only and also how much does CGC count against this? Should I return this to the seller ? Or is this normal for this type of tears at the bottom and this is a key issue. Seller said this is 9.4 NM or better.

20190114_234925.jpg

20190114_234933.jpg

20190114_234940.jpg

20190114_234947.jpg

20190114_234956.jpg

20190115_000839.jpg

20190115_000848.jpg

20190115_000859.jpg

20190115_002422.jpg

20190115_002442.jpg

20190115_002455.jpg

20190115_002504.jpg

20190115_002514.jpg

20190115_002536.jpg

20190115_002548.jpg

20190115_002607.jpg

20190115_002615.jpg

20190115_002628.jpg

20190115_002658.jpg

20190115_002705(1).jpg

20190115_002705.jpg

Edited by BITCOINSWAMI

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2,518 posts

Google this: comic printing gripper holes

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
912 posts

Binder Perfs - See "Perforations." 

Perforations - Small hole at the page margins which sometimes occur as part of the manufacturing process. "Not considered a defect. Perforations are sometimes used to tell if a comic is an unread copy. In such a copy tell-tale clicks are heard when the book is opened for the first time as the perforations separate. 

9.6 NEAR MINT+ (NM+):  Back to Top
Only subtle bindery or printing defects are allowed. No bindery tears are allowed, although on Golden Age books bindery tears of up to 1/8" have been noted.

9.4 NEAR MINT (NM):  Back to Top
Subtle bindery/printing defects are allowed. Bindery tears must be less than 1/16" on Silver Age and later books, although on Golden Age books bindery tears of up to 1/4" have been noted.

 

It seems we have a contradiction...

I never payed attention to those when I was buying books new in the 80's/90's, if they were there it was just the way things were, thats how the comic came, no big deal.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14,188 posts
2 hours ago, marvelmaniac said:

Binder Perfs - See "Perforations." 

Perforations - Small hole at the page margins which sometimes occur as part of the manufacturing process. "Not considered a defect. Perforations are sometimes used to tell if a comic is an unread copy. In such a copy tell-tale clicks are heard when the book is opened for the first time as the perforations separate. 

9.6 NEAR MINT+ (NM+):  Back to Top
Only subtle bindery or printing defects are allowed. No bindery tears are allowed, although on Golden Age books bindery tears of up to 1/8" have been noted.

9.4 NEAR MINT (NM):  Back to Top
Subtle bindery/printing defects are allowed. Bindery tears must be less than 1/16" on Silver Age and later books, although on Golden Age books bindery tears of up to 1/4" have been noted.

 

It seems we have a contradiction...

I never payed attention to those when I was buying books new in the 80's/90's, if they were there it was just the way things were, thats how the comic came, no big deal.

I have never been a believer in manufacturing defects not counting towards the grade. If I can find an example of the book without the defect then the defect should affect the grade. Just an opinion that isn't shared by the majority.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14,188 posts
9 hours ago, BITCOINSWAMI said:

I just recieved a copy of spider-man #361 and the first 5 pages at the bottom are all cut up what the heck is this? Is this normal the seller said the book is NM NM-. How do these tears happen on 1st 5 pages only and also how much does CGC count against this? Should I return this to the seller ? Or is this normal for this type of tears at the bottom and this is a key issue. Seller said this is 9.4 NM or better.

20190114_234925.jpg

20190114_234933.jpg

20190114_234940.jpg

20190114_234947.jpg

20190114_234956.jpg

20190115_000839.jpg

20190115_000848.jpg

20190115_000859.jpg

20190115_002422.jpg

20190115_002442.jpg

20190115_002455.jpg

20190115_002504.jpg

20190115_002514.jpg

20190115_002536.jpg

20190115_002548.jpg

20190115_002607.jpg

20190115_002615.jpg

20190115_002628.jpg

20190115_002658.jpg

20190115_002705(1).jpg

20190115_002705.jpg

I am enjoying seeing you grow with regards to your experiences in collecting comic books. These are all lessons many of us fellow collectors have learned.

The seller did not disclose the grabber rips. Then again, does a seller have too disclose that when the grading standards seem to not consider that a defect?

Next time you now know you should ask if the book from that era has the grabber holes or not if the seller does not include images or any description relevant. They are extremely common. I personally don't like them.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
1 1