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[RareHighGrade]

1 hour ago, Mmehdy said:

13.7 million so far, WOW the market is RED HOT

Everything that I was tracking and thinking about buying went for prices that shattered existing records.  I've never seen the GA market this hot.  Even books for which I thought I paid way too much in the past now look like brilliant investments.

[lou_fine]

9 hours ago, lou_fine said:

On 4/1/2021 at 7:46 PM, Aman619 said:

pandemic on last legs... party is almost over. Pretty soon it will be just us and the crickets and tumbleweeds buying comics again.

So, are you saying that I will now be able to pick up a copy of Transformers #1 in the loonie bin box again instead of trying to save up my $44K?  

 

5 hours ago, Aman619 said:

I had --- or have --- a 9.8... its in my database.  But until I locate it again who knows!  Im rich!  (or was it a 9.9 that sold for that much??)

Hate to be the bearer of bad news here, but it was indeed a CGC 9.9 graded copy that sold for $44,000:  

https://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAUCTIONS%2FSEARCH.ASP%3FFocusedOnly%3D1%26where%3Dauctions%26title%3Dtransformers%2B1%26ItemType%3DCB%26CGC%3DYES%26CBCS%3DYES%23Item_1452303&id=1452303&itemType=0

 

If yours is only a piddly CGC 9.8 graded copy, you'll be lucky if you can find somebody to pay you even $44 for it.  

Dag gone these CGC label chasers!!!  

 

[lou_fine]

3 hours ago, RareHighGrade said:

5 hours ago, Mmehdy said:

13.7 million so far, WOW the market is RED HOT

Everything that I was tracking and thinking about buying went for prices that shattered existing records.  I've never seen the GA market this hot.  Even books for which I thought I paid way too much in the past now look like brilliant investments.

Well, if you take a look at the current results for the CC Event Auction after almost 2 full weeks in, you certainly wouldn't think the market was that RED HOT.  

With a total of 153 pages of items up for auction, if you do a sort from Lowest Price upwards, the first 22 pages or over 14% of the auction lots are still sitting at a loonie as they are still awaiting their first bid.  The next 24 pages or a further 16% has still to hit double digits as they are sitting there with high bids of under $10.  

As for the GA market being hot, I think it really depends on the book in question as I can see highest graded copies of GA pedigrees or file copies from the late 30's and early 40's with only a handful of copies graded to date (i.e. 5 copies or less) still sitting there with low single digit dollar bids.  It looks like what's really hot with today's generation of deep pocketed crypto investors and sports card traders are more recent highest graded BA and CA issues with that big #1 first appearance and thousands upon absolute thousands of copies already slabbed in HG condition.    

[Timely]

This copy of Catman #28 was on eBay for under $6000 with no takers a few years ago. Sold this weekend for $10,200! 

[skypinkblu]

10 hours ago, lou_fine said:

Well, if you take a look at the current results for the CC Event Auction after almost 2 full weeks in, you certainly wouldn't think the market was that RED HOT.  

With a total of 153 pages of items up for auction, if you do a sort from Lowest Price upwards, the first 22 pages or over 14% of the auction lots are still sitting at a loonie as they are still awaiting their first bid.  The next 24 pages or a further 16% has still to hit double digits as they are sitting there with high bids of under $10.  

As for the GA market being hot, I think it really depends on the book in question as I can see highest graded copies of GA pedigrees or file copies from the late 30's and early 40's with only a handful of copies graded to date (i.e. 5 copies or less) still sitting there with low single digit dollar bids.  It looks like what's really hot with today's generation of deep pocketed crypto investors and sports card traders are more recent highest graded BA and CA issues with that big #1 first appearance and thousands upon absolute thousands of copies already slabbed in HG condition.    

Now I have to figure out how to sort from the bottom up so I can shop...

I have a few books listed that are lower than expected, hopefully they will go up, this is a LONG auction. However, I don't mind shopping and getting some bargains, either. I have some room in my boxes, lol.

[alexgross.com]

On 4/2/2021 at 6:56 AM, Aman619 said:

Tough market to be buying in... prob not a great time to lock in on grails and keys. But, also prob a new dawn in all investment categories so who knows?  Stock market has  been rising for a decade too.  Dow at 33K ?/. S&P at 4000? What the?  It would be so much easier to understand and plan if we only knew who is doing the buying at these prices.  Has Heritage been adding new accounts like crazy for the past year? Or mostly still same bidders? 

i've only been on the boards for 4 years now but seeing how many new boardies have just appeared this year, particularly in the SA, BA and COPPER OR MODERN books sections, certainly supports the argument that many new investors are getting into comics now, as they have gotten into many other collectibles as well. a lot of people appear to have done very well last year. i'm not sure an end to the pandemic will change that so much.

[lou_fine]

4 hours ago, skypinkblu said:

Now I have to figure out how to sort from the bottom up so I can shop...

Hey Sharon;

It's really very very simple.  

All you have to do is open up your webpage to their current Event Auction 45 (i.e. not their daily listings) which indicates a total of 3,058 items for this auction. You then simply move your mouse to the left and select the sort that you want as their default sort is set to Ending Soonest.  From here, you can select sort by Price Highest/Lowest, Grade Highest/Lowest, or whatever else you want.  

Another favorite of mines is to go a bit lower and filter by the various pedigrees.  The first pedigree which I usually look for is the Allentown since that is my favorite GA pedigree due to its limited size and HG condition, which in this case indicates none in their inventory as it doesn't show up.  Or if you want the Church Mile High books (cheap Westerns for me ), it looks like they have 30 in their inventory with 7 of them up in this current auction.  Another that I usually look for are Dell File Copies, but only from the late 30's and very early 40's due primarily to their blow away condition and strong bold Church-like colors, because for some reason the later time periods do not appear to be consistently as strong.  Still hoping to get me a bargain San Francisco one day since that's one of the few GA pedigree samples that I still don't have in my collection yet.  

Well, you should get the idea by now and definitely makes it a lot easier to filter and search for your favorite pedigrees to see if their are any cheap ones that you might be able to snap up under the radar.    

Edited April 3, 2021 by lou_fine

[aardvark88]

33 minutes ago, lou_fine said:

 

Well, you should get the idea by now and definitely makes it a lot easier to filter and search for your favorite pedigrees to see if their are any cheap ones that you might be able to snap up under the radar.    

Dearest Lou Fine,

Could u do a summary of the high grade pulp auction since it seems like u are on HA.com daily? Recommend posting it in the moribund Pulp forum.

[ThothAmon]

Looks like the highest graded Archie’s aren’t immune to the price inflation. Sadly I didn’t Man Up. 
 

[lou_fine]

29 minutes ago, ThothAmon said:

Looks like the highest graded Archie’s aren’t immune to the price inflation. Sadly I didn’t Man Up. 

Well, although the highest graded Archie's have apparently joined the party at Heritage, it would appear that some of the non-highest graded copies are still waiting to receive their invitations at CC:  

https://www.comicconnect.com/item/902644

Looks like this copy of an Archie first issue along with quite a few other GA Archie's must be feeling a bit stood up like poor Betty here as they are still sitting at $1 awaiting their first bid.  

 

Edited April 3, 2021 by lou_fine

[lou_fine]

On 4/1/2021 at 11:55 AM, lou_fine said:

Well, I hope all of you have your copies of Adventure 48 before Hourman makes his big silver screen appearance as part of the next pahse of the DCEU movie franchise.    

I was only kidding about the potential impact of the eventual Hourman movie since movie hype seldom ever go as far back as the GA books, but did somebody finally breathe some life into these Adventure Comics after being dormant and pretty much dead for longer than Rip Van Winkle:      

https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/superhero/adventure-comics-59-dc-1941-cgc-fn-60-off-white-pages/a/7242-96001.s?ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Auction-Open-ThisAuction-120115

 

Can't believe this one here sold for over guide, let along more than double condition guide when the GA Adventure run of books normally have a tough time even fetching guide over the past couple of decades.      

Edited April 4, 2021 by lou_fine

[William-James88]

1 hour ago, lou_fine said:

I was only kidding about the potential impact of the eventual Hourman movie since movie hype seldom ever go as far back as the GA books, but did somebody finally breathe some life into these Adventure Comics after being dormant and pretty much dead for longer than Rip Van Winkle:      

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can't believe this one here sold for over guide, let along more than double condition guide when the GA Adventure run of books normally have a tough time even fetching guide over the past couple of decades.      

Wondering if this boom could extend to Star Spangled Comics.

[lou_fine]

18 minutes ago, William-James88 said:

Wondering if this boom could extend to Star Spangled Comics.

Well, maybe not quite that far yet as the sports card traders, Gamestoppers, and crypto investors probably haven't discovered Star Spangled yet since this one here barely managed to fetch condition guide, although those staples do appear to be a bit of a problem:    

 

[lou_fine]

5 hours ago, aardvark88 said:

Dearest Lou Fine,

Could u do a summary of the high grade pulp auction since it seems like u are on HA.com daily? Recommend posting it in the moribund Pulp forum.

Hey Allan;

Sorry, as I definitely can't be of much help to you here since I haven't really paid much attention to the pulps at all, and in fact, did not even realize that there was a Pulp Forum on these boards here.  

Although I did indeed have a passing interest in some of the Spicy related pulps a few years ago, my inability to acquire any of them at reasonable prices in the grade that I wanted kind of dampened my interest in the entire Pulp field.  

[lou_fine]

Looks like this one-shot book managed to fetched more than 10X top of guide and also more than double what it went for in the Berk Auction a few years ago:

https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/captain-courageous-comics-6-mile-high-pedigree-periodical-house-ace-magazines-1942-cgc-nm-96-white-pages/a/7242-96017.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

 

 

A nice tidy return for the consignor as it sold for $20,400 this time as compared to only $8,100 when sold by Berk.  I guess it was probably helped along by the fact that it might possibly have gone through the CPR process as it was only slabbed as a CGC 9.4 graded copy on the first go round in the big Jon Berk Auction back in 2017.    

[Mmehdy]

34 minutes ago, lou_fine said:

Looks like this one-shot book managed to fetched more than 10X top of guide and also more than double what it went for in the Berk Auction a few years ago:

https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/captain-courageous-comics-6-mile-high-pedigree-periodical-house-ace-magazines-1942-cgc-nm-96-white-pages/a/7242-96017.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

 

 

A nice tidy return for the consignor as it sold for $20,400 this time as compared to only $8,100 when sold by Berk.  I guess it was probably helped along by the fact that it might possibly have gone through the CPR process as it was only slabbed as a CGC 9.4 graded copy on the first go round in the big Jon Berk Auction back in 2017.    

Higher grade and white pages will do it every time, great cover. the auction total at 15.6 M is probably a record, there is one last auction set to go to get the final total

Edited April 4, 2021 by Mmehdy

[RareHighGrade]

1 hour ago, lou_fine said:

Looks like this one-shot book managed to fetched more than 10X top of guide and also more than double what it went for in the Berk Auction a few years ago:

https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/captain-courageous-comics-6-mile-high-pedigree-periodical-house-ace-magazines-1942-cgc-nm-96-white-pages/a/7242-96017.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

 

 

A nice tidy return for the consignor as it sold for $20,400 this time as compared to only $8,100 when sold by Berk.  I guess it was probably helped along by the fact that it might possibly have gone through the CPR process as it was only slabbed as a CGC 9.4 graded copy on the first go round in the big Jon Berk Auction back in 2017.    

Yes, there's a noticeable difference, but rather than raising the grade to a 9.6, it's one that should have reduced the book from a 9.4 to a 9.2. Just look at the damage at both (seemingly sunken) staples caused by the pressing.  That damage did not exist when it was a 9.4 with an untouched, rounded spine:  

ComicConnect - 

This is what I truly hate about the pressing game.

Edited April 4, 2021 by RareHighGrade

[Mr. Lady Luck]

6 hours ago, RareHighGrade said:

Yes, there's a noticeable difference, but rather than raising the grade to a 9.6, it's one that should have reduced the book from a 9.4 to a 9.2. Just look at the damage at both (seemingly sunken) staples caused by the pressing.  That damage did not exist when it was a 9.4 with an untouched, rounded spine:  

ComicConnect - 

This is what I truly hate about the pressing game.

 

[Robot Man]

9 hours ago, RareHighGrade said:

Yes, there's a noticeable difference, but rather than raising the grade to a 9.6, it's one that should have reduced the book from a 9.4 to a 9.2. Just look at the damage at both (seemingly sunken) staples caused by the pressing.  That damage did not exist when it was a 9.4 with an untouched, rounded spine:  

ComicConnect - 

This is what I truly hate about the pressing game.

Like how can one not be happy with the original 9.4 Church copy? Didn’t Edgar do a good enough of a job saving this beautiful book for us? It is simply a crime to do anything to a book like us. But at the end of the day, everything is simply about money. 

[Timely]

12 minutes ago, Robot Man said:

Like how can one not be happy with the original 9.4 Church copy? Didn’t Edgar do a good enough of a job saving this beautiful book for us? It is simply a crime to do anything to a book like us. But at the end of the day, everything is simply about money. 

That’s what I’m liking about original art. No need to press art so it can be better than another. There is only one. No need to press a 9.4 piece of art to a 9.6. And you don’t loose money when one grades higher than yours!