The sketch may be Robert Crumb but I could not recognize the signature 0

[kav]

GREGGY!!!  You WEED HEAD!!!

[JollyComics]

32 minutes ago, oldmilwaukee6er said:

Obviously it's Crumb from the Big Brother & the Holding Co album, but I remember these blotter acid sheet art coming out in the mid 90s thru venues like Art Rock. They repopped several designs and then had Leary, Burroughs & Hoffman sign. Here's an article from the LA Times. 

What a fantastic story!

[oldmilwaukee6er]

12 hours ago, JollyComics said:

 

 

Dip that sheet and read this comic, change you and your friend's life   (j/k)

But Leary did a comic book in '79 that doesn't even need a tab to trip out 

 

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[F For Fake]

I'm willing to eat this to test the authenticity!

[kav]

5 hours ago, oldmilwaukee6er said:

 

Dip that sheet and read this comic, change you and your friend's life   (j/k)

But Leary did a comic book in '79 that doesn't even need a tab to trip out 

 

Yep I have that one.

[James J Johnson]

18 hours ago, JollyComics said:

It looked like Robert Crumb's sketch on the graphic paper but I can't tell who signed on that paper.

I am helping my friend to find out about that name and I need you to authenticate Robert's sketch.

Thanks for your helps.

What's the source for this piece? Also, if anyone knows, the source for the other Leary signed piece in this thread. 

[kav]

1 hour ago, James J Johnson said:

What's the source for this piece? Also, if anyone knows, the source for the other Leary signed piece in this thread. 

Not sure but that sig matches exemplars perfectly IMO
 

Edited October 28, 2020 by kav

[James J Johnson]

1 hour ago, kav said:

Not sure but that sig matches exemplars perfectly IMO
 

That's why I'm curious as to their provenance. These two are pretty close, but relatively atypical compared to the norm for Learys with unshakeable provenance and rock solid authentication. 

[catman76]

6 hours ago, James J Johnson said:

What's the source for this piece? Also, if anyone knows, the source for the other Leary signed piece in this thread. 

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[catman76]

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[James J Johnson]

1 hour ago, catman76 said:

It was supposed to be the front cover to Big Brother and the Holding Company's Cheap Thrills album, but the band didn't like it and used the image Crumb drew for the back cover as the front cover instead.

“Janis liked Zap Comix and Snatch Comix, my comics appealed to the hard-drinking, hard-f*cking end of the hippie spectrum as opposed to the spiritual, Eastern-religious, lighter-than-air type hippie. Janis asked me to do an album cover. I liked Janis OK and I did her cover. I took speed and did an all-nighter. The front cover I designed wasn’t used at all. They used the back cover for the front. I got paid $600. The album cover impressed the hell out of girls much more so than the comics. I got a lot of mileage out of that over the years!”

 

 

I meant the provenance of the Timothy Leary signature. Where and when acquired and by who, if that info is available. 

[kav]

2 hours ago, James J Johnson said:

That's why I'm curious as to their provenance. These two are pretty close, but relatively atypical compared to the norm for Learys with unshakeable provenance and rock solid authentication. 

It looks like his 90s examples, to me anyway.

[kav]

2 hours ago, James J Johnson said:

That's why I'm curious as to their provenance. These two are pretty close, but relatively atypical compared to the norm for Learys with unshakeable provenance and rock solid authentication. 

 Many subtle things that would be difficult to forge-the distant vanishing point that the 3 lines approach, the higher e in leary and exact positioning with the a, the number of strokes in "im" and the exact amt of tapering, the boxlike area and the letters inside.

[kav]

Not exactly provenance but it helps that he was known to sign these crumb blotters.  

[Artboy99]

3 minutes ago, kav said:

 Many subtle things that would be difficult to forge-the distant vanishing point that the 3 lines approach, the higher e in leary and exact positioning with the a, the number of strokes in "im" and the exact amt of tapering, the boxlike area and the letters inside.

I think it is forged. Lots of differences.

[James J Johnson]

Just now, Artboy99 said:

I think it is forged. Lots of differences.

I also remain unconvinced, based on the tracks alone and feel that in this case, the provenance is an important piece of info that would aid in ascertaining authenticity. 

[kav]

You guys need to explicate the differences you see then.

[Artboy99]

12 minutes ago, kav said:

You guys need to explicate the differences you see then.

angles of the 3 main strokes are different

curvature of the end of the first name

length of the 3 main strokes is different ( by a lot )

curvature of the y in the second name

r to y in second name arrived at differently

a in second name very different

length and curvature of m in first name very different

the pencil signature appears done by someone with a looser hand, the sharpie signature is more rigid

Edited October 29, 2020 by Artboy99

[kav]

3 minutes ago, Artboy99 said:

angles of the 3 main strokes are different

curvature of the end of the first name

length of the 3 main strokes is different ( by a lot )

curvature of the y in the second name

r to y in second name arrived at differently

the pencil signature appears done by someone with a looser hand, the sharpie signature is more rigid

you will sign more rigid with a sharpie, all those differences can be attributed to no one signs the exact same way twice.

[Artboy99]

7 minutes ago, kav said:

you will sign more rigid with a sharpie, all those differences can be attributed to no one signs the exact same way twice.

my own signature never looks the same so I agree. But there are always some similarities to how the lines are achieved and in this case the sharpie signature looks different.

Edited October 29, 2020 by Artboy99