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Raw ASM 11 9.6 (?) plus other nice books on eBay from new seller - legit?

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Sqeggs

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Should ask for close up photos. If he has the book(s), then he should be able to provide them.

 

This was the up close photo of the cert# the seller sent me.

 

PekF61i.jpg

 

CGC# no longer is in the CGC Database as book was likely cracked/pressed and the old # removed from DB (when label was sent in) to make way for new #

 

What you likely have here is the pic of the "old label" now removed.

 

That was the case with my Tec 49 (graded in '04) as the original CGC# was removed and no longer available for lookup. It was part of an OO submission that went from issue 43-50. The CGC #s are all sequential but the old number for the 49 can no longer be found as it has a new CGC# (was cracked and pressed unfortunately and lost the original cert#)

 

The only other time a cert# cannot be found is if book has just been graded and cert not yet entered in the DB, which is not the case of the ASM.

 

I think you nailed it, Peter.

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smithdatura

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Unless my eyes are deceiving me, the numbers on the close-up of the cert don't match the numbers on the full-blown image of the slab in the listing. Last number looks like a 1 vs. 4, fourth and fifth numbers don't appear to both be 7's on the full-blown image, etc.

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ivegotneatstuff

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Why dont we just simply tell him our concerns - and have him post a video of himself showing all the books on youtube.

 

Do it! Take the ball and run with it.

 

OK I took your advice haha..

 

I just wrote him this via eBay.

 

*****

 

Hi - Your items are really nice and I (and I think many others) would like to bid, but we have concerns due to your lack of feedback, etc..

 

I thought you would like to know there is a thread about this very subject on the CGC Forum http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=9747886&fpart=1

 

If you are legit, why not address the concerns...by joining the forum and chatting with us. Perhaps you are a member of CGC, etc, and maybe you are on the boards already - or maybe you have already READ that thread haha .. but anyway.. just a thought it might be in your interest to do so. (..i.e., perhaps a video showing you and all the items in your possession, etc.. would go a LONG way toward alleviating these concerns ) - or perhaps you have other ideas..

 

Anyway, just reaching out - welcome to eBay and all that jazz.. Good luck w/ your auctions.

 

 

 

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BlowUpTheMoon

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Why dont we just simply tell him our concerns - and have him post a video of himself showing all the books on youtube.

 

Do it! Take the ball and run with it.

 

OK I took your advice haha..

 

I just wrote him this via eBay.

 

 

:applause:

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ivegotneatstuff

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He/she answered...here it is...

 

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New message from: mastephenso-0 (1)

Hello thanks for the inquiry

 

I wholeheartedly understand the lack of feedback issue, and this is certainly my fault. I honestly believed that I could list a handful of NICE books and stir some interest , generating more business and bids than smaller dollar items. i think that has been partially successful . It has been a fun ride that is for sure.

The volume of inquiries , requests, many obscure no doubt to ease ones mind about a low FB seller. Dancing naked with a book on my chest on video? :P Just kidding,,,!

 

I appreciate you reaching out , I might have rethink my listing these on my own an utilize a professional. The sheer volume of it and being the perfectionist I am (aren't most of us collectors ?) trying to do the best job is becoming exceedingly difficult with a day job , family , etc....

 

I guess I am naive , but what would someone achieve with selling something NOT in their possession ? What would happen at auction close? They just do it to cause chaos, thrill anarchists?

 

I am not up to joining your forum tonight, but I will and thanks for the offer I did poke around and it seems like a cool community, paranoid :P but i guess there are reasons for that.

 

Perhaps and this just occurred to me, if i pulled my listings and sold on the forum? is that allowed? Save fees would be watched by all ? Or have someone help me with listing the most efficient way like one of the dealers or heavy hitters?

 

I tried many different formats of images not to be deceptive but to see what works best, And i think a scan AND a picture is the smart way to list, don't see that , whatever works that would ease the influx of questions

 

Have a great night!

 

Respectfully

 

Mad Max

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The sheer volume of it and being the perfectionist I am (aren't most of us collectors ?) trying to do the best job is becoming exceedingly difficult with a day job , family , etc....

 

I tried many different formats of images not to be deceptive

 

Including cropped scans. Most of the images were far from perfect. First time I ever heard this excuse...

 

And trying to do the "best job" with nine high grade or big books is not exceedingly diffiicult - not when a considerable amount of money is at stake, at least.

 

And one last thing - the only seller I have ever known on eBay (and I've been on it for almost two decades) who graded raw early silver age books as "NM+" was that man from Floral Park, NY.

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Artboy99

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I was looking at that FF 12 already

But I don't want to be the first person to buy from him.

Someone step up and take one for the team

 

Looks like a 5.5 with that spine stress, not an 8.5.

 

agreed! Awful grading.

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Bomber-Bob

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Should ask for close up photos. If he has the book(s), then he should be able to provide them.

 

This was the up close photo of the cert# the seller sent me.

 

PekF61i.jpg

 

CGC# no longer is in the CGC Database as book was likely cracked/pressed and the old # removed from DB (when label was sent in) to make way for new #

 

What you likely have here is the pic of the "old label" now removed.

 

That was the case with my Tec 49 (graded in '04) as the original CGC# was removed and no longer available for lookup. It was part of an OO submission that went from issue 43-50. The CGC #s are all sequential but the old number for the 49 can no longer be found as it has a new CGC# (was cracked and pressed unfortunately and lost the original cert#)

 

The only other time a cert# cannot be found is if book has just been graded and cert not yet entered in the DB, which is not the case of the ASM.

 

I think you nailed it, Peter.

 

There are other ASM books in the submission that are on the database.

Grade Date 05/14/2001 .

You are correct, the #13 was resubbed.

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The sheer volume of it and being the perfectionist I am (aren't most of us collectors ?) trying to do the best job is becoming exceedingly difficult with a day job , family , etc....

 

I tried many different formats of images not to be deceptive

 

Including cropped scans. Most of the images were far from perfect. First time I ever heard this excuse...

 

And trying to do the "best job" with nine high grade or big books is not exceedingly diffiicult - not when a considerable amount of money is at stake, at least.

 

And one last thing - the only seller I have ever known on eBay (and I've been on it for almost two decades) who graded raw early silver age books as "NM+" was that man from Floral Park, NY.

 

Sure 'feels' like the same guy.

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The sheer volume of it and being the perfectionist I am (aren't most of us collectors ?) trying to do the best job is becoming exceedingly difficult with a day job , family , etc....

 

I tried many different formats of images not to be deceptive

 

Including cropped scans. Most of the images were far from perfect. First time I ever heard this excuse...

 

And trying to do the "best job" with nine high grade or big books is not exceedingly diffiicult - not when a considerable amount of money is at stake, at least.

 

And one last thing - the only seller I have ever known on eBay (and I've been on it for almost two decades) who graded raw early silver age books as "NM+" was that man from Floral Park, NY.

 

Sure 'feels' like the same guy.

 

Yeah, the very first line in the auction is very "Hammer-esque". The rest of it, not as much.

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