grebal Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Thanks Lizard, I stand corrected! Haven't bought from JS in a while, and anyway I meant someone else with that endorsement - I'll try to add the guy I mean that also begins with a "J." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adampasz Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 marvelguy60 is another good, high-volume seller IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Just now, grebal said: Thanks Lizard, I stand corrected! Haven't bought from JS in a while, and anyway I meant someone else with that endorsement - I'll try to add the guy I mean that also begins with a "J." I'm not specifically picking on you..., just adding my The tricky part of asking for advice on the CGC Boards is that many boardies can't grade either. And there are several sellers here who use a different grading standard when selling on eBay. grebal and RockMyAmadeus 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBird Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 eBay is completely skewed in favor of the buyers. Just pay with a credit card; fully protected. F For Fake, Greenlake and lizards2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedcake Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 for the ebay night is dark and full of terrors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunisherPunisherPunisher Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Once you get the hang of buying from eBay your title will change to Im scared of selling on eBay SuperBird 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan510 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 25 minutes ago, lizards2 said: I'm not specifically picking on you..., just adding my The tricky part of asking for advice on the CGC Boards is that many boardies can't grade either. And there are several sellers here who use a different grading standard when selling on eBay. Who was the guy here in the last year or two who admitted ( after getting caught ) to grading looser on eBay because he felt their buyers weren't as sophisticated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punksdropdirtysrh Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 48 minutes ago, adampasz said: marvelguy60 is another good, high-volume seller IMHO. +1 I used to buy from him all the time. He’s good for filling in runs. adampasz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Logan510 said: 52 minutes ago, lizards2 said: I'm not specifically picking on you..., just adding my The tricky part of asking for advice on the CGC Boards is that many boardies can't grade either. And there are several sellers here who use a different grading standard when selling on eBay. Who was the guy here in the last year or two who admitted ( after getting caught ) to grading looser on eBay because he felt their buyers weren't as sophisticated? I remember the discussion, but can't remember the user name. Probably because I never ordered from him anyway. I think that thread may have been more like 3-4 years ago, but my memory is terrible. The mistake I make is assuming someone who sells a ton of slabs knows how to grade raws. Bad assumption there. But I must also assume they get lots of surprises back from CGC. I'm not really sure what is going on sometimes - scamming, looser grading system for eBay, old school grading, bag grading, poor grading skills, poor vision, and/or poor light may all be reasons. I try to give folks the benefit of the doubt, but it only takes a couple or three stings until I write them off, whatever the underlying reason (which I don't know) may be. I spend enough time packaging up books I sell, without spending time on packaging up returns. That being said, there are a lot of great awesome sellers both here and on eBay. Edited March 5, 2018 by lizards2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan510 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, lizards2 said: I remember the discussion, but can't remember the user name. Probably because I never ordered from him anyway. I think that thread may have been more like 3-4 years ago, but my memory is terrible. The mistake I make is assuming someone who sells a ton of slabs knows how to grade raws. Bad assumption there. But I must also assume they get lots of surprises back from CGC. I'm not really sure what is going on sometimes - scamming, looser grading system for eBay, old school grading, bag grading, poor grading skills, poor vision, and/or poor light may all be reasons. I try to give folks the benefit of the doubt, but it only takes a couple or three stings until I write them off, whatever the underlying reason (which I don't know) may be. I spend enough time packaging up books I sell, without spending time on packaging up returns. That being said, there are a lot of great sellers both here and on eBay. Yup. When I sell raws ( rarely ) I always grade conservatively because I want a happy camper...and I never pull the "I'm not a professional grader" karp. I'm not a professional grader, but saying that in an eBay listing seems like such a cop out to me TrayKnight, mattn792 and Mystafo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystafo Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, NoMan said: a little, yeah, but I ain't no punk selling wolf-tickets. I can't lie, I had to look that one up! Here the coon azzez say "Mais, if you scurred den say you scurred!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Mystafo said: 1 hour ago, NoMan said: a little, yeah, but I ain't no punk selling wolf-tickets. I can't lie, I had to look that one up! Here the coon azzez say "Mais, if you scurred den say you scurred!" I'm afraid to look any of that up..., Mystafo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punksdropdirtysrh Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 That’s true about feedback not being very reliable. I’ll admit that a couple times where I thought a book was undergraded I still left positive fb. It seems I actually end up blaming myself rather than the seller...which sounds hilarious now that I think about it. And a time where I bought a mag and it was shipped without any protection in a yellow envelope. But in that instance I sort of expected it. Perhaps I just have a very high tolerance for poor selling tactics. Come to think of it I’ve never left a negative fb. One time a seller deserved it...but still didn’t do it. A seller would have to really burn me to get a neg...so far nothing too rough as I mentioned earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBird Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 35 minutes ago, Logan510 said: Who was the guy here in the last year or two who admitted ( after getting caught ) to grading looser on eBay because he felt their buyers weren't as sophisticated? I don't recall who, but bottom line is that if you are not happy, the seller is forced to rake the return. Logan510 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystafo Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Guess I better watch myself...kind of a slur. But dats what we calls ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBird Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 As an eBay seller, let me say I fear selling on eBay. Not buying! So many hassles. Mystafo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punksdropdirtysrh Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, SuperBird said: As an eBay seller, let me say I fear selling on eBay. Not buying! So many hassles. True that! eBay selling is for emergencies only! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicquant Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) I used to buy a ton off eBay but since being introduced to the boards I do much more of my buying from reputable dealers, boardies or ComicLink. What I've found is when I buy from a dealer like Bob Storms or Dale Roberts I get more for my money. The times I buy from eBay I consider them more of a gamble. Maybe theres a raw book that has some defects I can have pressed or cleaned and I end up getting a decent deal. But when it comes to a price to quality ratio you can't beat the aforementioned. Especially when it comes to harder to find higher grade books. When you get into higher grade books eBay becomes the realm of ridiculousness. 20% to 50% above gpa is the norm so its pointless to even try. There are people selling who will have true auctions now and then but those are few and far between and they're typically not the most desirable books. Not that you can't find them on eBay but you have to spend a ton of time and be in the right place at the right time. These days I keep my want lists up to date with my favorite online dealers, browse their new arrivals and keep an eye on the boards sales threads. Edited March 5, 2018 by comicquant Dale Roberts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Logan510 said: 8 minutes ago, lizards2 said: I remember the discussion, but can't remember the user name. Probably because I never ordered from him anyway. I think that thread may have been more like 3-4 years ago, but my memory is terrible. The mistake I make is assuming someone who sells a ton of slabs knows how to grade raws. Bad assumption there. But I must also assume they get lots of surprises back from CGC. I'm not really sure what is going on sometimes - scamming, looser grading system for eBay, old school grading, bag grading, poor grading skills, poor vision, and/or poor light may all be reasons. I try to give folks the benefit of the doubt, but it only takes a couple or three stings until I write them off, whatever the underlying reason (which I don't know) may be. I spend enough time packaging up books I sell, without spending time on packaging up returns. That being said, there are a lot of great sellers both here and on eBay. Yup. When I sell raws ( rarely ) I always grade conservatively because I want a happy camper...and I never pull the "I'm not a professional grader" karp. I'm not a professional grader, but saying that in an eBay listing seems like such a cop out to me If it helps any, I've cracked hundreds of slabs, and "consistency" isn't in the vocabulary of even the professional graders. You're probably tired of hearing me say this, but you never know what is in a slab until you crack it out and confirm. I don't know - I've been buying and selling books for 40+ years, and have sold a ton on here in the past 11+ years - should I be considered a pro? I would have no problem with making that claim IF I could hide my work in slab that is likely to never be opened. There are some "non-professional" guys on here where the raw grading is more consistent than the stuff found in slabs - October, Johnenock, crassus and hippy Roy come to mind immediately. I'm sure I'm forgetting some others. justafan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, punksdropdirtysrh said: That’s true about feedback not being very reliable. I’ll admit that a couple times where I thought a book was undergraded I still left positive fb. It seems I actually end up blaming myself rather than the seller...which sounds hilarious now that I think about it. And a time where I bought a mag and it was shipped without any protection in a yellow envelope. But in that instance I sort of expected it. Perhaps I just have a very high tolerance for poor selling tactics. Come to think of it I’ve never left a negative fb. One time a seller deserved it...but still didn’t do it. A seller would have to really burn me to get a neg...so far nothing too rough as I mentioned earlier. Yeah - I seldom complain about undergraded books, and always leave positive feedback when I get them. grebal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
