This tiny crease OK for a 9.2?
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Hey guys,

I was looking at pictures on ebay trying to get a feel for how a book I own would be graded.  Then I saw this on a CGC 9.2 book.  This kind of corner web/crease is allowed on an otherwise nice book for a 9.2?

 

 

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Sure.

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11 minutes ago, Westy Steve said:

Hey guys,

I was looking at pictures on ebay trying to get a feel for how a book I own would be graded.  Then I saw this on a CGC 9.2 book.  This kind of corner web/crease is allowed on an otherwise nice book for a 9.2?

 

 

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Not the norm for 9.2.

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To me that's no better than a 9.0 but based on some of the grades I saw in the March Madness grading contest from CGC...sure, it's a 9.2.

 

 

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I was discussing this with a few people at the last Berkeley Con.  As Joe said, 9.2 books HAVE DEFECTS :makepoint: Think about it, there are FIVE grading levels above 9.2.  on the book in question that is a very small color breaking stress, which is probably = to 4-5 color breaking spine ticks, which is consistent with a lot of books in 9.2 holders IF the rest of the book is clean.  The problem comes in when people see one defect on a book and then consider that defect as acceptable WITH A BUNCH OF OTHER DEFECTS on a book, this is where consistency breaks down and frustration sets in.

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Kinda like 9.6's with around 5 or 6 tiny, color breaking spine tics...seen QUITE a few of those in my limited experience.

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1 hour ago, jharvey said:

I've seen a CGC 9.4 with a nearly identical crease.

 

 

48 minutes ago, Mystafo said:

Kinda like 9.6's with around 5 or 6 tiny, color breaking spine tics...seen QUITE a few of those in my limited experience.

Ditto on both accounts, plus the 9.2s.

To me they are probably 9.0s, but hey, CGC it.

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3 hours ago, Westy Steve said:

Hey guys,

I was looking at pictures on ebay trying to get a feel for how a book I own would be graded.  Then I saw this on a CGC 9.2 book.  This kind of corner web/crease is allowed on an otherwise nice book for a 9.2?

 

 

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I've seen those on 9.4s.

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5 hours ago, Westy Steve said:

Hey guys,

I was looking at pictures on ebay trying to get a feel for how a book I own would be graded.  Then I saw this on a CGC 9.2 book.  This kind of corner web/crease is allowed on an otherwise nice book for a 9.2?

 

 

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Personally, I would not want to own a book graded 9.2 with an obvious corner crease. During some eras of CGC grading, a book with a corner crease like this would have received an 8.5. 

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34 minutes ago, Bomber-Bob said:

Personally, I would not want to own a book graded 9.2 with an obvious corner crease. During some eras of CGC grading, a book with a corner crease like this would have received an 8.5. 

It doesn't bother me so much if it's on a 9.0 or a 9.2, but that Daredevil #168 makes me a little nervous. The rest of that book must be a 9.8...  (shrug)

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Thanks for the great feedback, guys.  There is hope yet for those of us who shove our books into the bag. :)  I was under the impression that you couldn't go about a 9.0 without that defect, but I guess if the rest of the book is a standout, CGC gives it a little bump for being so nice.  At least that's the logic I'm going to apply in my head.

Steve

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8 hours ago, c_mkv said:

Top right corner of my X14

X14 9.2 Front.jpg

This book is otherwise gorgeaous and the corner crease is very small, almost tiny. I'm fine with tiny corner creases getting a 9.2. Size matters !!!!!

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17 minutes ago, Bomber-Bob said:

...Size matters !!!!!

:whatthe:

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18 hours ago, Westy Steve said:

Hey guys,

I was looking at pictures on ebay trying to get a feel for how a book I own would be graded.  Then I saw this on a CGC 9.2 book.  This kind of corner web/crease is allowed on an otherwise nice book for a 9.2?

 

 

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To me this is not a 9.2. I use Overstreet Grade definitions and I am pretty sure this is not allowed. 8.5 at best IMO.

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2 hours ago, Bomber-Bob said:

This book is otherwise gorgeaous and the corner crease is very small, almost tiny. I'm fine with tiny corner creases getting a 9.2. Size matters !!!!!

And I'm not sure if (as far as CGC graders are concerned) the age of the book is supposed to influence the grade, but I would find a tiny corner crease as shown more acceptable on a 9.2 from the early Silver Age than a similarly-graded comic from the Bronze Age.

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