Looking at a Large DC Copper Age Collection
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On 5/12/2019 at 11:33 AM, ThothAmon said:

Was looking at eBay SOLD listings to see if a long box that contained binders full of comic related cards and pogs had any value when this thread popped into my head. (I got the card binders as an incidental when I purchased a 30 long box collection of mostly bronze and copper books about 5 years ago. ). Made me wonder how bad a collection has to be to no longer be “worth it”?  Everyone must have a limit. 

I've passed on 200 long boxes of 80/90s books and so has everyone else that has seen it.  The "collection" is all unbagged and out of order and has been picked over pretty clean.  The guy wants $6,000 for the 200 long boxes but the books are simply too much time and effort to be worth $30 a long box.  There are very few reasonable limits when the books are unpicked but once all the good books are gone then that threshold of what makes since to buy is very real.

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3 hours ago, 1Cool said:

I've passed on 200 long boxes of 80/90s books and so has everyone else that has seen it.  The "collection" is all unbagged and out of order and has been picked over pretty clean.  The guy wants $6,000 for the 200 long boxes but the books are simply too much time and effort to be worth $30 a long box.  There are very few reasonable limits when the books are unpicked but once all the good books are gone then that threshold of what makes since to buy is very real.

Sounds like a reasonable limit to me. Personally, the largest collection I ever picked up was about 40 longs (may have been 37 or 38), and that is pretty close to my threshold. I enjoyed working the collection but it took up a lot of space and several months to get rid of everything. Had fun making money, but yeah, I'm thinking 40-50 is near the top of where I want to be, and I tend to prefer collections in the 10 boxes or less range. 200 boxes of picked over stuff, even dirt cheap, I'd likely have to pass unless I had someone who was going to help me schlep it around.

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On 5/2/2019 at 1:32 PM, Dormian said:

The time commitment is something I am worried about. From the list he sent me it looks pretty organized. I currently have around 8000 comics so this will almost double what I currently have. I have mostly Marvel so there wont be much overlap. I am currently parring down the personal collection and getting books ready to setup at shows.

60 longs will more than double you. 225 or so bagged and boarded books per box? What do you plan on doing with the 56-58 boxes of books that are not solo ebayeable?

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It probably gets to be worth it if you can shave him down some from 10 cents and you plan to do some shows. You have ready made dollar box inventory. Bring shorties and tell people that can fill then for $50-75. Of course I am a guy who passed on 6-8 longs of free stuff when a local shop closed. My back started hurting thinking about it.

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So here is my plan to buy the rest of the long boxes.

Let me start by saying I am not a DC collector. Some of my favorite series and stories are DC, Elseworlds, and Vertigo but I know very little about the majority of the DC titles.

For the 11 long boxes I bought I have been using comics.gocollect.com to determine what might have some value. I do a quick run through of the titles and if it has around 10 sales I pull it aside. I assume if it is worth grading and has recorded sales it is probably worth more than a dollar. I will probably miss something nice using this method. I have pulled about 200 books from the 11 longs using this method.

I have joined some Facebook comics sales sites and picked out a few that look like a good fit for this collection. A couple of the sites look good for selling lots and sets. I also get 50 free eBay posting a month. 

An unfortunate side effect of buying it all is I will have to rent a monthly storage unit to go through the boxes. My plan is to keep the storage unit for two months. Anything that doesn't have value, hasn't sold or been pulled aside for dollar boxes will get dropped off at Goodwill or the Library. I might list it on Craigslist take it all for a nickle a piece.

If I do this plan I will start this weekend. I am off work Monday so it gives me an extra day to process the longs. Moving and setup will probably take a day.

What am I keeping for myself? I have already pulled a good stack of Elseworld titles and smaller Vertigo runs. I might read Transmetropolitan to see what all of the fuss is about. I might keep DC Comics Presents 26.

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I purchased the rest of this collection. While the list numbered 60 boxes he kept 13 boxes so i ended up with 47 boxes. The final price included the two steel shelves he was storing the books on.

The books have been moved to my storage unit and I have started organizing. About 8 boxes of recent stuff were not sorted.

How do some of you pros handle a collection like this? Do you submit the better books to CGC or just cash out as raws? I am setting up at two small shows this summer. Due to vehicle space I am limited to 12 long boxes.

 

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12 hours ago, Dormian said:

I purchased the rest of this collection. While the list numbered 60 boxes he kept 13 boxes so i ended up with 47 boxes. The final price included the two steel shelves he was storing the books on.

The books have been moved to my storage unit and I have started organizing. About 8 boxes of recent stuff were not sorted.

How do some of you pros handle a collection like this? Do you submit the better books to CGC or just cash out as raws? I am setting up at two small shows this summer. Due to vehicle space I am limited to 12 long boxes.

 

What was in it?

The answer to your bolded question is - to me - totally dependent on your cash flow and your storage situation.

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sell some raws and use that money to slab the books worth slabbing. Maybe recoup your initial investment first even. 

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1 hour ago, Bird said:

sell some raws and use that money to slab the books worth slabbing. Maybe recoup your initial investment first even. 

If you need to, otherwise start selling the high demand books, but retain the real value.

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On 5/21/2019 at 5:34 AM, Dormian said:

So here is my plan to buy the rest of the long boxes.

Let me start by saying I am not a DC collector.

Now you are! :bigsmile:

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Here is the full list of stuff. I will list some of the items I have put aside later on.

I have a Batman Adventures 12 in 6.5 in the PGM. 99.9% of the books were bags and boarded none of the BAs were.

Not everything is as good as it looks on paper. The Preachers were trades up to issue 50 and the Transmetropolitan #1 is a trade also.

Box: 2 1
Sword of the Atom
Power of the Atom
Atom One Shots
Anarky
Animal Man ( regular & Vertigo)
Azrael (mini & series)
 
Box: 3 2
Batman / Detective to NML
 
Box: 4 3
Batman / Detective after NML
Batman Regular Series (except NML)
 
Box: 5 4
Batman Regular Series (except NML)
Shadow of the Bat
 
Box: 6 5
Legends of the Dark Knight to #176 (except NML)
NML
 
Box: 7 6
Batman Chronicles
 
Mini series, One Shots & Collections
Gotham Nights 1 & 2
Dark Victory
& Tarzan
Joker Time
Joker & The Mask
Outlaws
& Toyman
Hollywood Knights
Turning Points
Orpheus Rising
Vs. Predator: 1,2, 3
Untold Legends
Shadow of the Batman
Saga of Ra's Al Ghul
Cult
Gordon of Gotham
GCPD
Doom that came to Gotham
Haunted Gotham
League of Batmen
Book of Dead
Dark Knight of the Round Table
Bane of Demon
Jazz
Ankh
& Demon
& Lobo
& Hellboy, Starman
& Daredevil
& Spawn
& Punisher
& Scarface
& The Darkness
& Grendel
The Hill
Thrillkiller
Dreamland
Of Arkham
Dark Knight Dynasty
Scar of the Bat
& Houndini
Gotham Noir
Reign of Terror
Castle of the Bat
Holy Terror
Two Faces
Robin 3000
Dark Claw
Book of Shadows
The Blue, the Grey & the Bat
Knight Gallery
DOA
Bullock's Law
Ego
Gauntlet
I, the Joker
Scottish Connection
Death of Innocents
Joker's Apprentice
Poison Tomorrows
Full Circle
Bloodborne
Room Full of Strangers
Mitefall
Faces
Penguin Triumphant
Bane
Mr. Freeze
2 Face Strikes Twice (golden age collection)
Featuring 2 Face & Riddler (collection)
Annual 1 (reproduction)
The Golden Streets of Gotham
& Aliens 2
& Deathblow
Batman Family (02 mini)
Tenses
Nevermore
& Planetary: Night on Earth
& Joker: Switch
Arkham Asylum (03 mini)
 
Box: 8 7
Batman Family
Gotham Kinights
Batgirl
Batgirl Special & 03 mini
Birds of Prey
 
Box: 9 8
Black Canary
Black Condor
Blue Beetle
Booster Gold
Captain Atom
Catwoman: 1st & 2nd series
 
Box: 10 9
Chase
Checkmate!
Chronos
DC Comics Presents ...
DC One Million
DC Challenge
Eclipso
 
Box: 11 10
Demon: All series & minis
Doctor Fate: All series & minis
Firestorm
Guy Gardner
 
Box: 12 11
Flash: 3rd series
Gotham Central
HERO
Millennium Editions

Box: 14 12
Green Arrow: 1983 mini series & 1st series & 2nd series
 
Box: 15 13
GL Quarterly
Mosaic
Emerald  Dawn 1 & 2 & other mini
Green Lantern: 2nd series
 
Box 16: 14
Green Lantern: 2nd series  (continued)
Impulse
 
Box 18: 15
Hourman
Huntress: series & mini
Hawkman: 2nd series
Hawkworld
Hawkman: 3rd series
Hawkman: 4 th series
 
Box 24: 16
LEGION/REBELS
Nightwing
Mister Miracle
Orion
Power Company: series & mini
Resurrection Man
The Ray: series & mini
 
Box 25: 17
Martian Manhunter: series & mini
Robin: series & mini
Spectre: 2, 3 + 4 series
Secret Origins: 2nd series & specials
Showcase: 2nd series
Power of Shazam
Starman: 1st & 2nd series
Box 27: 18
Supergirl: 3rd series
Superboy: 1st, 2nd, 3rd  & the Ravers
Steel
 
Box 29: 19
Suicide Squad 1st & 2nd series
Warlord
Young Justice
 
Box 31: 20
Wonder Woman: 2nd series
 
Box 32: 21
Young Allies
Blue Devil
Who's Who & updates
Action Comics to #660
(diamond starts)
Superman / Adventures of ..
Superman prior to # 424
Adventures of .. 424-473 (diamond starts)
 
Box 35: 22
Man of Steel: mini series
New Superman: # 1-50 (diamond starts)
Year 1991
Year 1992
Year 1993
Year 1994
 
Box 36: 23
Year 1995
Year 1996
Year 1997
Year 1998
Year 1999
Year 2000
 
Box 37: 24
Year 200 (continued)
Year 2001
New Superman: #176-226 (ends)
Man of Steel" 120-134 (ends)
Metropolis: mini
Gernerations: 1, 2, 3: mini
Supermen of America: mini
Superman: Secret Years: mini
World of Krypton: 1928 mini
Phantom Zone
World of Krypton: 1988
World of Smallville:1988
World of Metropolis: 1988
Metropolis SCU: 1994
Star Corps; 1988
Superman: Secret Indenity
Superman: Birthright
Superman: Strength
 
Box 38: 25
Adventures of ... / Superman
# 598 - (diamond ends / returns to Superman on #650)
Action # 785 (diamond ends)
Various Superman  Minis & One Shots
Guardian of Metropolis: 1994
A Bizzarro
Vs. Terminator
& Bugs Bunny
& Gen 13
& Savage Dragon
& Savage Dragon: Chicago
Superman Monster
War of the Worlds
A Nation Divided
Doomsday
Doomsday: Wars
Superman Inc.
Last God of Krypton
The Odyssey
Under a Yellow Sun
Superman's Metropolis
Distant Fires
Vs. Predator
Last Son of Earth
Mann & Superman
At Earth's End
Where Is Thy Sting
Shogun of Streel
& Madman: Hullabaloo
World's Finest: 1986
World's Finest: 1999
WF3
World's Funnest
Elseworld's Finest
Superboy's Legion
& Darkness
& Thundercats
Kansas Sightings
Dat of Doom
Last Stand on Krypton
& Aliens 2
& Trazan
Blood of My Ancestors
& Shazam: First Thunder
Superman Returns: Prequel
Young Heroes in Love
Batman Adventures: 2003
Batman Strikes
 
Box 40: 26
Legacies – Mini 2008
Last Family Krypton Mini
Red Circle - Crusaders
Red Circle – Web
Red Circle – Shield
The Mighty – Mini 2009
Booster Gold – 2008
Brave/Bold – 2008
DC Legends – 2007
Wonder Woman – 3rd Series
Zatanna
 
Box 41: 27
Arak, Son of Thunder
Plastic Man: 89 mini series
New series (05-06)
Breach
Bloodhound
Monolith
Zodiac
 
Box 42: 28
Solo
Superamn/Batman
Outsiders 2003: 2nd Series
Outsiders: 3rd series
Outsiders 2007: 4th series
Checkmate 2006
Jonah Hex 2006
 
Box 43: 29
Legends
The Weird
Invasion!
Millennium
Armageddon
Blood Bath
Zero Hour
Underworld Unleashed
Final Night
Genesis
The Kingdom
Day of Judgement
Sins of Youth
The Sliver Age
Haven
DC 1 Million
Real Worlds
The Law
New Year's Evil
Tangent Comics
World @ War
Last Laugh
Girl Frenzy
J Schwartz Tribute: DCCP
Hero Hotline
OMAC: Bryne
Flash & GL: Brave & Bold
 
Box 44: 30
7 Soldiers: Morrison
Identity Crisis
Infinite Crisis
Day of Vengence
OMAC Project
Rann-Thanagar War
Villians United
Battle for Bludhaven
The Spectre
Return of Donna Troy
New Frontier
Trinity
Vigilnate: 06 mini
Lex Luthor: 05 mini
Space Ghost
Jack Cross
Rose & Thorn
Son of Vulcan
The Question: 06 mini
Sgt Rock: The Prophecy
Return of Adam Strange
Dead Shot: 06 mimi
Challengers of the Unknown: Chaykin
Enginehead
Human Defense Corps
Forever Maelstrom
Gotham Girls
Light Brigade
Lab Rats
Just Imagine: Stan Lee
Dc 1st: 02 mini
Guns of the Dragon
Enemy Ace:  War in Heaven
Adam Strange: 1990 mini
Red Tornado: 86 mini
Relative Heroes
 
Box 45: 31
Preacher
Beware the Creeper: vertigo mini
The Filth
American Century
Weird Western Tales
Weird War Tales
War Story: various
Kid Eternity
Angel & Ape
Rifle Brigade
Rifle Brigade: Operation Bollocks
Engima
Extermists
Outlaw Nation
Transmetropolitan
Sea Guy
We
Other Side
Zatanna:

Box 46: 32
52
52:Crime Bible
52: 4 Horsemen
Countdown
Countdown: Lord Havok
"                  : Areana
"                  : Mystery
"                  : Search for Ray Palmer
"                  : Specials
Aquaman: 4th series
Firestorm: 2nd series
Trails of Shazam
Shadowpact
 
Box 47: 3
Warlord: 06 series
The Next
Shazam: Monster Society of Evil
Secret Six: 1st series
Suicide Squad: 08 mini
Conor Hawke: Dragon's Blood
Rush City
Metamorpho: Year 1
Black Adam
Doom Patrol: 4th series
Blood of the Demon: 05 series
Death of the New Gods
Wonder Girl : 08 mini
Batlash
Metal Men: 08 mini
Creeper: 06 mini
Amazons Attack
Mystery in Space: 06 mini
Tales of the Unexpected: 06 mini
Omega Men: 07 mini
Omac: 06 mini
Uncle Sam & the Freedom Fighters: 06 mini
"                                                            : 07 mini
Martin Manhunter: 06 mimi
Helmet of Fate: 07 mini
 
Box 48: 34
Trinity
Superman Confidential
Capt Carrot: Final Ark
Retro: 2011 mini
Power Girl
JSA: 2nd series
JSA vs Kobra
JSA Allstars
THUNDER Agents
 
Box 49: 35
Wildstorm various
Stormwatch
Legend
Thunder Agents
Tom Strong
Power Girl
Flash: rebirth
Flash 5th series

Box: 51 36
Boys & Minis
Northlanders
Joe the Barbarian
Army @ Love
Army @ Love: Art of War
Haunted Tank: 08
Astro City
 
Box: 52 37
Authority – All
Lobo: Series & minis
Deathstroke
 
Box: 53 38
Fables
Cinderalla
Fairest
 
Box:54 39
Batman 66
Harley Quinn
+ Power Girl
Jimmy Olsen + Bizzaro
Batmite
GL rebirth
Rebels 1 + 2

8 add’l boxes of unsorted
 

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19 minutes ago, Dormian said:

Here is the full list of stuff.

Don't sell them. Too much work. Just grab a box out of storage and start reading. Some good stuff in there!

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Most is not all of the Hughes are there. Some Artgerm. 

2, 3, 4 of Death in the Family

Batman 386, 423

Batman Harley Quinn 9.6

Detective Comics 850 9.8

Detective Comics 880 9.8

DC Comics Presents 26 9.4

Wonder Woman 184 9.8

Catwoman 51 9.6

Catwoman 74 9.8

Flash 1, 80, 84, 92, 108, 138, 141,197, 198, 199, 207, 208, 209, 210

Batman Adventures 12 6.5

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1 minute ago, Dormian said:

Most is not all of the Hughes are there. Some Artgerm. 

2, 3, 4 of Death in the Family

Batman 386, 423

Batman Harley Quinn 9.6

Detective Comics 850 9.8

Detective Comics 880 9.8

DC Comics Presents 26 9.4

Wonder Woman 184 9.8

Catwoman 51 9.6

Catwoman 74 9.8

Flash 1, 80, 84, 92, 108, 138, 141,197, 198, 199, 207, 208, 209, 210

Batman Adventures 12 6.5

Also pull:

Batman 570
Detective 737
Batman 404
Batman Chronicles Annual 1
Batman Adventures 28
DC Comics Presents 27
DC Comics Presents 43
DC Comics Presents 87
all Hughes Zatanna and Wonder Woman (was just in a shop in Minnesota where the guy said they were his best sellers and couldn't keep them in stock).

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Pull all the 9.6 and 9.8 candidates and put them in Mylar. Take the rest as you see fit to your shows. I would separate all of the Bats and Tecs and keep them - they are only going to go up in price. Most of all - enjoy the whole experience!:applause:

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2 hours ago, Dormian said:

Here's what I like from your list:

Box: 2 1
Animal Man ( regular & Vertigo)
Azrael (mini & series)
 
Box: 3 2
Batman / Detective to NML (WTF is NML???)
 
Box: 4 3
Batman / Detective after NML
Batman Regular Series (except NML)
 
Box: 5 4
Batman Regular Series (except NML)
 
Joker Time

Vs. Predator: 1,2, 3

& Demon
& Lobo
& Hellboy, Starman
& Daredevil
& Spawn
& Punisher
& Scarface
& The Darkness

Thrillkiller

I, the Joker
Bane
 
Box: 8 7
Batman Family

Batgirl
Batgirl Special & 03 mini
Birds of Prey
 
Box: 9 8
Black Canary

Blue Beetle
Booster Gold

Catwoman: 1st & 2nd series
 
Box: 10 9
DC Comics Presents ...
 
Box: 11 10
Demon: All series & minis
Firestorm
 
Box: 12 11
Flash: 3rd series

Box: 14 12
Green Arrow: 1983 mini series & 1st series


Box: 15 13

Green Lantern: 2nd series
 
Box 16: 14
Green Lantern: 2nd series  (continued)
Impulse
 
Box 18: 15
Huntress: series & mini
Hawkman: 2nd series

Box 24: 16

Nightwing
Mister Miracle

Box 25: 17
Robin: series & mini
Spectre: 2, 3 + 4 series
Secret Origins: 2nd series & specials
Showcase: 2nd series

Starman: 1st & 2nd series

 

Box 27: 18
Supergirl: 3rd series
Superboy: 1st, 2nd, 3rd  


Box 29: 19
Suicide Squad 1st & 2nd series

Box 31: 20
Wonder Woman: 2nd series
 
Box 32: 21

Blue Devil
Who's Who & updates
Action Comics to #660
(diamond starts)
Superman / Adventures of ..
Superman prior to # 424
Adventures of .. 424-473 (diamond starts)
 
Box 35: 22

New Superman: # 1-50 (diamond starts)
Year 1991
Year 1992
Year 1993
Year 1994
 
Box 36: 23
Year 1995
Year 1996
Year 1997
Year 1998
Year 1999
Year 2000
 
Box 37: 24
Year 2000 (continued)
Year 2001
New Superman: #176-226 (ends)
Man of Steel" 120-134 (ends)
Superman: Birthright

Box 38: 25
Adventures of ... / Superman
# 598 - (diamond ends / returns to Superman on #650)
Action # 785 (diamond ends)


Vs. Terminator
& Bugs Bunny
& Gen 13
& Savage Dragon
& Savage Dragon: Chicago
Superman Monster
War of the Worlds
A Nation Divided
Doomsday
Doomsday: Wars
Superman Inc.

Vs. Predator
Last Son of Earth

& Aliens 2

 

Batman Adventures: 2003

 

Box 40: 26

Wonder Woman – 3rd Series
Zatanna

 
Box 42: 28

Superman/Batman
Jonah Hex 2006
 

Box 44: 30

The Spectre
Return of Donna Troy

Vigilnate: 06 mini

Rose & Thorn

Gotham Girls
 
Box 45: 31
Preacher

Weird Western Tales
Weird War Tales

Kid Eternity
Angel & Ape

Transmetropolitan

Zatanna:

Box 46: 32
52

Firestorm: 2nd series


Box 47: 3

Doom Patrol: 4th series
 
Box 48: 34

Power Girl
JSA: 2nd series

 
Box 49: 35
Wildstorm various
Stormwatch

Power Girl
Flash: rebirth

Box: 51 36

 
Box: 52 37
Authority – All
Lobo: Series & minis
Deathstroke
 
Box: 53 38
Fables
Cinderalla
Fairest
 
Box:54 39
Batman 66
Harley Quinn
+ Power Girl

GL rebirth

8 add’l boxes of unsorted
 

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@Dormian: Do you know which books were in the 13 boxes he kept ?

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2 hours ago, archivist said:

@Dormian: Do you know which books were in the 13 boxes he kept ?

I never saw the missing boxes but I know he kept all of the Justice League which is probably boxes 19-23. Some vertigo titles are missing like Sandman and Hellblazer. No swamp thing. He also kept all of the Silver and Gold. He says he has 19 boxes left.

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6 hours ago, divad said:

Batman / Detective to NML (WTF is NML???)

No Man's Land. All separated into its own box.

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